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Re: Squaw Creek Report
[Re: cjbles]
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01/16/18 06:00 PM
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Frank the Tank
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I believe Lavon does that (I may be mistaken)....... guess what lake you rarely ever see a derby on....... yep
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Re: Squaw Creek Report
[Re: buda13]
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01/16/18 06:16 PM
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Clark3
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If they'd start charging a $500 permit fee to have a non charity tournament on the lake most would go away...get into the the TD's wallet and the schedules for next year change real quick. I'm going to give you a lesson in economics. They require 500$ to host a tournament, all that'll happen is just raise the entry fees and or lower the payout and people will still fish just as many. I build homes for a living. When our cost goes up, we just pass it down in some form or fashion to the consumer as does just about any industry. Only true change would be to manage the tournaments themselves as far as how many, when, and how often. Money wouldn't change a thing
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Re: Squaw Creek Report
[Re: cjbles]
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01/16/18 09:11 PM
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John175☮
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Stress less, relax more. Go fishing.
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Re: Squaw Creek Report
[Re: cjbles]
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01/16/18 09:37 PM
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tx2va07
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How is it that hard to fizz a fish that you see not doing well in the live well?? I don’t understand why this is even an issue.
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Re: Squaw Creek Report
[Re: cjbles]
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01/16/18 09:56 PM
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JWalls
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I do know the number of fish between 5 and 8 pounds being brought to weigh in has gone down. I am not sure if they are mostly dead and gone (killed by poor handling or old age) or if they have been enlightened by the number of baits they have bit and seen and just harder to catch. When it first reopened big ones were easy to catch shallow, then they were in 15 ft and now hard to catch in over 30.
There has been only two days since Oct. that there were more than 110 boats and one of them was Fish N Chips (Local Charity Tournament). Most weekends 40-50 of the people with a reservation do not show up. Media is only having one tournament and TTO is only good sized one that I have heard of this year. BLT is done. The opens are down and most only seem to have 25 boats or so in them. Some of them have gone to 3 fish and most of those guys are regulars and know how to fizz a fish. They would probably be out there fishing anyway. Blaming Pros and tournaments for the bigger bass not being caught and not including all the just for fun fisherman seems like a stretch. I have not heard of that on Rayburn, Toledo, Falcon and such. Speaking mainly to large fish dying in weigh-in from not being fizzed.
As to the fee to reduce tournaments. I think the tournaments have reduced themselves already. Does not seem fair to small clubs to have to pay a big fee to fish a warm water lake in winter. Still lots of keepers being caught. Only a couple of lakes in the state where most of fisherman have a limit at weigh in Jan. We got spoiled because of the lake not being fished for several years.
I think all lakes cycle. The bait fish grow good some years; the bass have good spawn other years. Fishing gets good, pressure comes, fishing gets bad pressure leaves. Starts over. Lots of variables. On Squaw these thing happen faster due to the year round warm water. Tilapia are a big issue in my opinion. They have helped some bass lakes like Falcon and wrecked others like Lake Calaveras. I like to blame them for reduction but it is all speculation.
I am curious to know how few tournaments a year the lake should have to bring back the larger bass and how that would be determined. Most clubs or opens do not check in with the park so I am not sure if anyone even knows how many have occurred over last few years. Sorry cjbles we have gotten a little off topic on your post. I will shoot you a pm to answer that.
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Re: Squaw Creek Report
[Re: cjbles]
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01/16/18 09:59 PM
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Justin DuBose
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I've been going every week for the last month, i'm consistently catching 13 lbs. I just can't figure out how to get a good bite out there.
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Re: Squaw Creek Report
[Re: cjbles]
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01/16/18 10:19 PM
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JWalls
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We started counting how many we caught instead of best five weight because of similar weights. Have had over 100 on two occasions between two of us in last few weeks. 30-40 seems like a slow day. Too bad it is not a Major League Fishing format.
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Re: Squaw Creek Report
[Re: cjbles]
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01/16/18 11:01 PM
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EDO
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Last weekend most of the fish I put in live well were belly up fairly quick. Someone I trust told me to clip one or two alligator clip weights on anal fin and another weight on cull ring to keep nose down. I did this to all fish in the box, checked often and unclipped all weights a few minutes before weigh in. Before they went into the bag all were in excellent condition swimming belly down. All swam away at release. Only had to fizz one of my partners fish. So it appears that if you can keep them in the correct position they will equalize their bladder. Sound correct? Viable option to fizzing?
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Re: Squaw Creek Report
[Re: cjbles]
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01/17/18 01:05 AM
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borntofish1
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Yes of course the tourneys and turnouts are down. This just didn't happen. This is a result of the last 3 years. I have been yelling the last few years on here about the multiple tourneys WEEKLY (Sat and Sun) that was occurring on a 3 month stretch that was taken place, but nobody wanted to listen. You can blame it on fizzing, fish care, its doesn't matter, too many tourneys...Speaking of which, where are those guys that held the weekly tourneys, where is their input now.....nothing!! Its good for the fish population [censored]!! Good for your pocket! Go look at my previous post, the lake had great potential for Texas, as usual we don't take care of anything.
Any idea if a fish can be fizzed multiple times and survive?? No studies on this. We cant control nothing but ourselves and we didn't, RIP 25# bag Squaw Creek.
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Re: Squaw Creek Report
[Re: EDO]
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01/17/18 01:22 AM
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Rob W.
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Last weekend most of the fish I put in live well were belly up fairly quick. Someone I trust told me to clip one or two alligator clip weights on anal fin and another weight on cull ring to keep nose down. I did this to all fish in the box, checked often and unclipped all weights a few minutes before weigh in. Before they went into the bag all were in excellent condition swimming belly down. All swam away at release. Only had to fizz one of my partners fish. So it appears that if you can keep them in the correct position they will equalize their bladder. Sound correct? Viable option to fizzing? Seems like a lot to do when I can fizz one in just a few seconds & be done.
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Re: Squaw Creek Report
[Re: cjbles]
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01/17/18 12:06 PM
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John175☮
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 Thanks for the fizzing heads-up. Tournament angler fish care is a must if we expect to be able to continue having tournaments. I check on my fish often throughout the day and ensure they are doing well. Good thread for reminding us all to care for our catch.
Stress less, relax more. Go fishing.
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Re: Squaw Creek Report
[Re: cjbles]
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01/17/18 12:29 PM
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206champion
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Re: Squaw Creek Report
[Re: JWalls]
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01/17/18 01:32 PM
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James Biggs
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I do know the number of fish between 5 and 8 pounds being brought to weigh in has gone down. I am not sure if they are mostly dead and gone (killed by poor handling or old age) or if they have been enlightened by the number of baits they have bit and seen and just harder to catch. When it first reopened big ones were easy to catch shallow, then they were in 15 ft and now hard to catch in over 30.
There has been only two days since Oct. that there were more than 110 boats and one of them was Fish N Chips (Local Charity Tournament). Most weekends 40-50 of the people with a reservation do not show up. Media is only having one tournament and TTO is only good sized one that I have heard of this year. BLT is done. The opens are down and most only seem to have 25 boats or so in them. Some of them have gone to 3 fish and most of those guys are regulars and know how to fizz a fish. They would probably be out there fishing anyway. Blaming Pros and tournaments for the bigger bass not being caught and not including all the just for fun fisherman seems like a stretch. I have not heard of that on Rayburn, Toledo, Falcon and such. Speaking mainly to large fish dying in weigh-in from not being fizzed.
As to the fee to reduce tournaments. I think the tournaments have reduced themselves already. Does not seem fair to small clubs to have to pay a big fee to fish a warm water lake in winter. Still lots of keepers being caught. Only a couple of lakes in the state where most of fisherman have a limit at weigh in Jan. We got spoiled because of the lake not being fished for several years.
I think all lakes cycle. The bait fish grow good some years; the bass have good spawn other years. Fishing gets good, pressure comes, fishing gets bad pressure leaves. Starts over. Lots of variables. On Squaw these thing happen faster due to the year round warm water. Tilapia are a big issue in my opinion. They have helped some bass lakes like Falcon and wrecked others like Lake Calaveras. I like to blame them for reduction but it is all speculation.
I am curious to know how few tournaments a year the lake should have to bring back the larger bass and how that would be determined. Most clubs or opens do not check in with the park so I am not sure if anyone even knows how many have occurred over last few years. Sorry cjbles we have gotten a little off topic on your post. I will shoot you a pm to answer that. I agree 100%
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Re: Squaw Creek Report
[Re: cjbles]
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01/17/18 01:41 PM
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Fishingking
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I am pretty sure all of the net caster are keeping them. Get them off of the lake and I will bet you see an improvement over time. They have personally laid waste to several of my spots.
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Re: Squaw Creek Report
[Re: Fishingking]
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01/17/18 02:41 PM
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SC-001
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I am pretty sure all of the net caster are keeping them. Get them off of the lake and I will bet you see an improvement over time. They have personally laid waste to several of my spots. I've never seen a single one there, now at fairfield thats a different story.
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