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 Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: InTheClear]
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01/06/18 01:12 AM
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Flippin-Out
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Thoughts and prayers, can't help but think there is still hope due to the life vest requirement. Unfortunately you'd be thinking wrong. Hypothermia is lethal a lot faster than many comprehend, and a serious threat even in 60-70 degree water (where unconsciousness can occur in 2-7 hours). Rough seas such as seen in the video will typically drown even a person in a PFD once the exhaustion/hypothermia set in. It's worse at night too (because you can't see the waves). Loss of consciousness in those conditions is realistically the end of the fight. Many reports dealing with missing boaters use a gentle approach as a gesture of kindness. The window for success is slim, after which it's really a recovery effort. The soft reporting and hopes time and again that a boater will be found safe (after an unrealistic period of time) unfortunately end up being a disservice for delivering the stark reality as a warning to others who are complacent when on the water. For those of you who fish in cooler weather, consider that if the water is 50-60 degrees, you may have no more than 2 hours until unconsciousness once you're in it. That isn't much. Planning and safety are so important - even for cool weather, not just when we view the weather as "cold".
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Ian Fellenbaum]
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01/06/18 02:07 AM
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Jarrett Latta
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Crazy the boater was out there for 13+ hours and made it but he also had the boat
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Ian Fellenbaum]
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01/06/18 02:26 AM
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TxBassSniper
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It happens a lot more than we hear about. About 15 years ago we took up a collection before a BFL tournament on T-Bend for a couple of guys that died while practicing for the tournament. One guy managed to get off a call to his dad, but it was almost dark and they couldn't find them. Both guys were found floating the next day.
My brother in laws dad died around this time of the year as well in a cold water related incident. He was running trot lines in a cove and somehow fell in. He managed to make it to the bank and collapsed, someone saw it and called 911 but he was gone before they could get him to the hospital.
Prayers to the survivor and the deceased.
Last edited by John Peebles; 01/06/18 03:41 AM.
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Jarrett Latta]
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01/06/18 02:59 AM
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Flippin-Out
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Crazy the boater was out there for 13+ hours and made it but he also had the boat The discussion I presented was about BEING IN THE WATER. Chances are obviously better if you are in a boat- even if it's swamped and adrift. This is one of the reasons why survival experts recommend staying with the boat. (I realize the ejected boater didn't make the choice to leave.) Being in a boat sure beats bobbing in the water getting your head submerged every time another wave comes....
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Ian Fellenbaum]
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01/06/18 03:09 AM
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SteezMacQueen
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It's odd that the driver was able to stay with the boat, if indeed that's what happened, and the co was not able. It's also strange that the video I saw of the boat against the rocks showed the boat completely full of water. Wonder why the auto bilge wasn't functional . But, I guess it could have been a destroyed hull and a dead battery. Can't tell by the pictures and video.
Sad .....very sad.
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Flippin-Out]
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01/06/18 04:21 AM
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C130
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Thoughts and prayers, can't help but think there is still hope due to the life vest requirement. Unfortunately you'd be thinking wrong. Hypothermia is lethal a lot faster than many comprehend, and a serious threat even in 60-70 degree water (where unconsciousness can occur in 2-7 hours). Rough seas such as seen in the video will typically drown even a person in a PFD once the exhaustion/hypothermia set in. It's worse at night too (because you can't see the waves). Loss of consciousness in those conditions is realistically the end of the fight. Many reports dealing with missing boaters use a gentle approach as a gesture of kindness. The window for success is slim, after which it's really a recovery effort. The soft reporting and hopes time and again that a boater will be found safe (after an unrealistic period of time) unfortunately end up being a disservice for delivering the stark reality as a warning to others who are complacent when on the water. For those of you who fish in cooler weather, consider that if the water is 50-60 degrees, you may have no more than 2 hours until unconsciousness once you're in it. That isn't much. Planning and safety are so important - even for cool weather, not just when we view the weather as "cold". Very well written and unfortunately the truth.
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Ian Fellenbaum]
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01/06/18 01:56 PM
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Jpurdue
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I had three friends who swamped their boat on Lake Erie in 43 degree water. After 1.5 hours 1 of them had lost consciousness. Coast guard plucked them all out around the two hour mark and doctors told them they were all with 1/2 hour of death. Cold water is no joke. Very sad deal here.
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Ian Fellenbaum]
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01/06/18 06:46 PM
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blueduck
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Any update on the co angler?
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Triton, Merc, Lowrance
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Jpurdue]
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01/06/18 07:44 PM
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Okie Poke
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I had three friends who swamped their boat on Lake Erie in 43 degree water. After 1.5 hours 1 of them had lost consciousness. Coast guard plucked them all out around the two hour mark and doctors told them they were all with 1/2 hour of death. Cold water is no joke. Very sad deal here. Generally, it takes from 10-20min for muscles to lose coordination and to lose consciousness in 41 degree water. Your friends were some awfully tough hombres. Praying for a miracle now with the FLW Co-angler. Sad deal all the way around....
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Okie Poke]
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01/06/18 08:09 PM
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Ken A.
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I had three friends who swamped their boat on Lake Erie in 43 degree water. After 1.5 hours 1 of them had lost consciousness. Coast guard plucked them all out around the two hour mark and doctors told them they were all with 1/2 hour of death. Cold water is no joke. Very sad deal here. Generally, it takes from 10-20min for muscles to lose coordination and to lose consciousness in 41 degree water. Your friends were some awfully tough hombres. Praying for a miracle now with the FLW Co-angler. Sad deal all the way around.... That is the truth! One of our fellow TFF'ers and a friend of mine had to get into the water at Fork in March when the water was high-50's. He told me he began to lose motor skills in about 10 mins if memory serves me correctly. Maybe he will come onto this thread and share his thoughts. Krawlin, you on here?
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Ian Fellenbaum]
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01/06/18 09:19 PM
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MagFluker
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Sharing, saw this on Roland Martin Marina on Facebook...
I was in that Costa event this week and these are the details that I got from from one of the guys with us.
Its not good. The lady in room next to us visited bill (angler) at hospital. They speared a wave and Nik went out. By the time he stopped he tried to go back and get him, engine would not fire. He went to try trolling motor and another wave knocked him off boat, co angler was last seen waving at him. He had to tie his self to the troll motor cable to stay with boat. He was able to get away from boat and to land before it crashed on rocks. It was 30degrees and windy as hell, water temps were low 50's where we were. I would imagine by the time he stopped he was already a long ways from him. Then the wind pushing boat did not help when it was dead in water. I dont know all the details yet but this was from someone who actually saw him and asked right b4 we left today. Its probably the most accurate thing we have heard so far from a reliable source. I pray they find him alive. with Irby Allen. - Bobby Wilson
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Ian Fellenbaum]
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01/06/18 09:27 PM
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Jarrett Latta
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He must've been getting it pretty good to end up that far from the coangler. And to lose someone from spearing a wave? I've seen guys come out due to hooking a wave but to spear and lose him is a helluva impact imo
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Re: FLW missing anglers
[Re: Ken A.]
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01/06/18 09:42 PM
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Jpurdue
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I had three friends who swamped their boat on Lake Erie in 43 degree water. After 1.5 hours 1 of them had lost consciousness. Coast guard plucked them all out around the two hour mark and doctors told them they were all with 1/2 hour of death. Cold water is no joke. Very sad deal here. Generally, it takes from 10-20min for muscles to lose coordination and to lose consciousness in 41 degree water. Your friends were some awfully tough hombres. Praying for a miracle now with the FLW Co-angler. Sad deal all the way around.... That is the truth! One of our fellow TFF'ers and a friend of mine had to get into the water at Fork in March when the water was high-50's. He told me he began to lose motor skills in about 10 mins if memory serves me correctly. Maybe he will come onto this thread and share his thoughts. Krawlin, you on here? The boat was swamped and capsized but still floating. They had something to hang onto and were half out of the water I believe. News article below: http://wsbt.com/news/local/middlebury-pa...power-of-prayer
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