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Re: Which is a better Boat / Motor combo?
[Re: Tidwell77]
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12/09/17 11:42 PM
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KingwoodCat
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BassCat with either motor.
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Re: Which is a better Boat / Motor combo?
[Re: Tidwell77]
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12/10/17 12:47 AM
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I have no dog in the hunt. I don't own either brand, but I've fished out of both. Of the two, I'd choose Phoenix without hesitation. Even with the fugly wings.
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Re: Which is a better Boat / Motor combo?
[Re: Tidwell77]
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12/10/17 01:35 AM
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the skipper
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The absolute best thing you can do is go for a ride in both. Then you decide . I've been in both and based on experience I own a phoenix. I did go with a 721. The 920 just wasn't worth the extra coin to me and I preferred the length to the width. Extremely happy with my decision. Get the SHO or the verado. No more 2 strokes for me. All those boats you mentioned are extremely nice and capable boats. The phoenix will be faster with the 920, it will ride better, and it will fish great. The skeeter will fish great and ride pretty good but I think phoenix will be better
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Re: Which is a better Boat / Motor combo?
[Re: Tidwell77]
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12/10/17 01:42 AM
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lamoon78
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Had both and now in a Cat but of those 2 I would go Phoenix for overall better rough water better layout faster and better customer service. But go with a Yamaha on it.
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Re: Which is a better Boat / Motor combo?
[Re: Tidwell77]
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12/10/17 01:56 AM
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You need to go ride in them. They are both good boats. The Phoenix will out ride the Skeeter and will be faster. The lay out is your preference. The ride on a rough day will go to the 921 without a doubt. The Phoenix lands real soft to keep from jarring your back. You won't go wrong with either.
best of luck and congrats on which ever boat you get.
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Re: Which is a better Boat / Motor combo?
[Re: GIG'EM AGGIES]
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12/10/17 02:09 AM
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I think the 921 Pro XP is right there with the FX21, maybe even a little higher. Doubt you could go wrong with either but based on current experience I will only own a SHO. Quietest, most efficient and dependable outboard I have ever owned. agree. You're not gonna find a better motor than and Yamaha 4-stroke. You almost forget it's running, until you stomp the hotfoot. Lowend punch is incredible.
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Re: Which is a better Boat / Motor combo?
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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12/10/17 02:26 AM
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GIG'EM AGGIES
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I think the 921 Pro XP is right there with the FX21, maybe even a little higher. Doubt you could go wrong with either but based on current experience I will only own a SHO. Quietest, most efficient and dependable outboard I have ever owned. agree. You're not gonna find a better motor than and Yamaha 4-stroke. You almost forget it's running, until you stomp the hotfoot. Lowend punch is incredible. Not to bash the 2 strokes, I've owned every brand made, but there's no comparison to a SHO. Know nothing about the Mercury 4 strokes because I've never seen one on a glass bass boat. I have the 150 SHO on a Skeeter ZX190 and have O complaints. Performs to the max during all seasons and I can do ALL the maintenance myself.
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Re: Which is a better Boat / Motor combo?
[Re: TX Strampion]
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12/10/17 03:26 AM
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kevine80
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I have no dog in the hunt. I don't own either brand, but I've fished out of both. Of the two, I'd choose Phoenix without hesitation. Even with the fugly wings. no doubt ! it looks like whoever tapes the graphics went to lunch and came back drunk -- to finish the job beautiful boat other than the "wings"
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Re: Which is a better Boat / Motor combo?
[Re: Tidwell77]
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12/10/17 03:45 AM
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DEFMP
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I've owned both, and my next boat will be another 921. Skeeter makes a great boat, as most manufacturers do, but the ride of the Phoenix is unreal. If you've never ridden in one, do it and you'll see what I mean. The boat is very soft in rough water, doesn't slap like a Skeeter. With the trolling motor down, the edge goes to the Phoenix. For the simple fact that Skeeters sit nose up and high in the water, and if you fish offshore, the nose gets blown around in wind. They both are very stable, and the SHO is a great motor. It's roughly 1800-2k more than the ProXs, so keep in mind that's about 5-6 years of purchasing oil at Fun-n-Sun's bulk price to make up the difference. Not too bad if you think of it that way.
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Re: Which is a better Boat / Motor combo?
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12/10/17 04:24 AM
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I have no dog in the hunt. I don't own either brand, but I've fished out of both. Of the two, I'd choose Phoenix without hesitation. Even with the fugly wings. no doubt ! it looks like whoever tapes the graphics went to lunch and came back drunk -- to finish the job beautiful boat other than the "wings" FYI, you can order the wings the same gel as the hull and hardly see em, if at all. I don�t pay attention to them. People usually only see em on the trailer or when being passed- and thats a quick look.
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Re: Which is a better Boat / Motor combo?
[Re: DEFMP]
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12/10/17 07:12 AM
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Flippin-Out
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I've owned both, and my next boat will be another 921. Skeeter makes a great boat, as most manufacturers do, but the ride of the Phoenix is unreal. If you've never ridden in one, do it and you'll see what I mean. The boat is very soft in rough water, doesn't slap like a Skeeter. With the trolling motor down, the edge goes to the Phoenix. For the simple fact that Skeeters sit nose up and high in the water, and if you fish offshore, the nose gets blown around in wind. They both are very stable, and the SHO is a great motor. It's roughly 1800-2k more than the ProXs, so keep in mind that's about 5-6 years of purchasing oil at Fun-n-Sun's bulk price to make up the difference. Not too bad if you think of it that way. One must consider the cost of 4 cycle oil/filters during the same period when making a 2 cycle/4 cycle economic comparison. I understand that is not cheap for some, but have no clue about SHO.
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Re: Which is a better Boat / Motor combo?
[Re: Flippin-Out]
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12/10/17 12:05 PM
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GIG'EM AGGIES
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I've owned both, and my next boat will be another 921. Skeeter makes a great boat, as most manufacturers do, but the ride of the Phoenix is unreal. If you've never ridden in one, do it and you'll see what I mean. The boat is very soft in rough water, doesn't slap like a Skeeter. With the trolling motor down, the edge goes to the Phoenix. For the simple fact that Skeeters sit nose up and high in the water, and if you fish offshore, the nose gets blown around in wind. They both are very stable, and the SHO is a great motor. It's roughly 1800-2k more than the ProXs, so keep in mind that's about 5-6 years of purchasing oil at Fun-n-Sun's bulk price to make up the difference. Not too bad if you think of it that way. One must consider the cost of 4 cycle oil/filters during the same period when making a 2 cycle/4 cycle economic comparison. I understand that is not cheap for some, but have no clue about SHO. I buy the complete oil change kit ( 5 qts. oil, filter, O rings and drain tube ) on ebay for $79.00 and do the change myself. Takes about 15 minutes. Yamaha recommends changing oil once a year but I imagine guides would change more often. Four strokes burn less gas also. Love my SHO.
I am a Senager. (Senior teenager) I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50 years later. I get an allowance every month. I have PU truck and a bass boat, I am blessed. Conscience never acquits, it either accuses or excuses.
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Re: Which is a better Boat / Motor combo?
[Re: Tidwell77]
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12/10/17 01:41 PM
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west tex angler
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I've rode in Gleason's Phoenix at Toledo Bend, and rode in a Triton at OH Ivie. I never rode in a Skeeter before buying one. But I bought a ZX250 2 years ago with the 250 Yamaha SHO, 2 power poles, 3 graphs, and more extra stuff, and the price was less than an FX but not by much. I'm not an expert on boat specs by any means but once on the water, I will say that with two "hefty" fishermen doing their thing, my ZX doesn't rock at all. It's a stable platform and rides very well. With just me in the boat, it will do 70 if I goose it, but after seeing how fast it will go just one time, I don't think I've had it over 5,000 RPM more than once. To me, speed is over rated. I tend to launch close to where I fish, and don't run the lake very much. One thing true about all bass boats- once you get the boat full with 2 guys and all of their [censored], no boat is big enough. The last time I caught what looked like "an over" at Fork, I tripped over stuff twice while getting to the net. All of the boats you mentioned are good boats, just rig them right. Good luck
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Re: Which is a better Boat / Motor combo?
[Re: Tidwell77]
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12/10/17 03:36 PM
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buch1565
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You might also consider the the quality of trailer to help you decide. For those of you who know (not me), which company makes the best trailer package? Do they come with a coating to protect against rust?
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Re: Which is a better Boat / Motor combo?
[Re: Tidwell77]
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12/11/17 02:40 PM
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Out of pure curiosity. Why isn't Triton ever mentioned in topics like these? What is wrong with them that make them not apart of conversations like these. Do they ride terrible in rough water. The layout on the 20TrX and 21TrX look awesome. Honest opinions from people too...don't just say they suck haha.
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