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 Re: What are my options - legal
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No, no leaking oil. Just a very hard cold start. It's had intermittent start issues since we bought it.
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Re: What are my options - legal
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6.0 liter Ford diesel.....  PITA to keep running unless a lot of upgrades are done, then they are good. EGR delete, studded and upgraded oil cooler.
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Re: What are my options - legal
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10/12/17 01:13 AM
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6.0 liter Ford diesel..... PITA to keep running unless a lot of upgrades are done, then they are good. EGR delete, studded and upgraded oil cooler. thats good, may be high pressure oil pump failing
1987 Nitro MX185/Mercury Black Max 150 (needs lots of work, put motor on nephew's boat)
1994 XSC-2200 "Jaguar" AKA Shadow 22 Magnum (restoring w/Mercury 200 XRI)
1994 Pantera II (restoring w/Mercury 200 EFI)
1999 Triton TX21/225 Mercury Optimax
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Re: What are my options - legal
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10/12/17 01:14 AM
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Injectors, is there any white smoke at all when it does start?
Why would you not want to know what the problem is? No smoke whatsoever. HPOP is testing good. ICP good. FICM Voltage is good. IPR is good. Will test all again with a stone cold engine.
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Re: What are my options - legal
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10/12/17 01:27 AM
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Well if it's not leaking oil, then fixing it may not be a huge deal. I'd call the dealer and see if they would split the repair cost with you if you take it to a Ford dealer.
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Re: What are my options - legal
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10/12/17 01:30 AM
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Id hit the powerstroke forum, those guys will get you going in no time. Id still lean towards injectors though, hard start is a typical sign. Theres an easy test to find out, but it can be dangerous so I wont suggest it.
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Re: What are my options - legal
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10/12/17 01:48 AM
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Id hit the powerstroke forum, those guys will get you going in no time. Id still lean towards injectors though, hard start is a typical sign. Theres an easy test to find out, but it can be dangerous so I wont suggest it.
I wonder why it would run and start good if were the injectors? How come they would only cause hard cold start?
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Re: What are my options - legal
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10/12/17 01:49 AM
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6.0 liter Ford diesel..... PITA to keep running unless a lot of upgrades are done, then they are good. EGR delete, studded and upgraded oil cooler. thats good, may be high pressure oil pump failing That is what he charged me $900 for. To put a new HPOP in....and still same problem.
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Re: What are my options - legal
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10/12/17 01:52 AM
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injectors are opened by oil pressure on that engine, unfortunately I believe the cab must come off to get to the high pressure pump on that motor if I remember correctly.
1987 Nitro MX185/Mercury Black Max 150 (needs lots of work, put motor on nephew's boat)
1994 XSC-2200 "Jaguar" AKA Shadow 22 Magnum (restoring w/Mercury 200 XRI)
1994 Pantera II (restoring w/Mercury 200 EFI)
1999 Triton TX21/225 Mercury Optimax
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Re: What are my options - legal
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10/12/17 01:53 AM
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injectors are opened by oil pressure on that engine, unfortunately I believe the cab must come off to get to the high pressure pump on that motor if I remember correctly. No, can be done with cab on. HPOP just replaced last week.
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Re: What are my options - legal
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10/12/17 01:54 AM
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Injectors require 500psi to operate. HPOP is currently putting out 773psi...well above minimum spec.
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Re: What are my options - legal
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10/12/17 01:54 AM
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injectors are opened by oil pressure on that engine, unfortunately I believe the cab must come off to get to the high pressure pump on that motor if I remember correctly. No, can be done with cab on. HPOP just replaced last week. cool, I missed that, what about the supply pump?
1987 Nitro MX185/Mercury Black Max 150 (needs lots of work, put motor on nephew's boat)
1994 XSC-2200 "Jaguar" AKA Shadow 22 Magnum (restoring w/Mercury 200 XRI)
1994 Pantera II (restoring w/Mercury 200 EFI)
1999 Triton TX21/225 Mercury Optimax
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Re: What are my options - legal
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10/12/17 01:56 AM
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injectors are opened by oil pressure on that engine, unfortunately I believe the cab must come off to get to the high pressure pump on that motor if I remember correctly. No, can be done with cab on. HPOP just replaced last week. cool, I missed that, what about the supply pump? Not sure. But why would that only create "cold" start issues. Once started and warmed for a minute, runs like a dream.
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Re: What are my options - legal
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10/12/17 02:01 AM
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injectors are opened by oil pressure on that engine, unfortunately I believe the cab must come off to get to the high pressure pump on that motor if I remember correctly. No, can be done with cab on. HPOP just replaced last week. cool, I missed that, what about the supply pump? Not sure. But why would that only create "cold" start issues. Once started and warmed for a minute, runs like a dream. only a guess but maybe losing its prime and not getting enough oil to the high pressure pump for it to make enough pressure to allow the computer to start let engine start. Once engine is running it holds prime for a while allowing it to restart.
1987 Nitro MX185/Mercury Black Max 150 (needs lots of work, put motor on nephew's boat)
1994 XSC-2200 "Jaguar" AKA Shadow 22 Magnum (restoring w/Mercury 200 XRI)
1994 Pantera II (restoring w/Mercury 200 EFI)
1999 Triton TX21/225 Mercury Optimax
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Re: What are my options - legal
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10/12/17 02:14 AM
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