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Re: Graph Interpetation
[Re: Buckshotbuddy]
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08/02/17 12:19 AM
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TCK73
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those should be full arches if the transducer was set right if you were moving but probably sandbass. His transducer is fine. Those fish are moving up, probably feeding. Arches are formed by boat speed, screen speed and angle of fish. If the fish are moving upward or downward you will not get good arches. This^^^^^ The Op never stated if he was moving or sitting still, it looks like he was sitting still and fish were streaking up. I see this frequently with Stripers pushing shad to the surface. I had a good example of this before Photobucket did its thing. This pic does has some fish streaking in it, not as much as the OP's post. The second pic you can see the slab moving up and down as well. Did you pull any of those out? Yes, about 75-80 of them. Magnum sand bass and 15"-16" Stripers.
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Re: Graph Interpetation
[Re: TCK73]
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08/02/17 12:44 AM
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those should be full arches if the transducer was set right if you were moving but probably sandbass. His transducer is fine. Those fish are moving up, probably feeding. Arches are formed by boat speed, screen speed and angle of fish. If the fish are moving upward or downward you will not get good arches. This^^^^^ The Op never stated if he was moving or sitting still, it looks like he was sitting still and fish were streaking up. I see this frequently with Stripers pushing shad to the surface. I had a good example of this before Photobucket did its thing. This pic does has some fish streaking in it, not as much as the OP's post. The second pic you can see the slab moving up and down as well. About as clear of images as I have ever seen, no question about feeding fish on those imgaes! I would love to have graph images look like those!!
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Re: Graph Interpetation
[Re: Big Kahuna Fishing]
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08/05/17 03:17 PM
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stratos1760dv
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Guys checkout itainttv.com the professor, Wilson Frazier and check his YouTube videos. I have his dvds and they are great. If the transducer was not installed correctly then the depth would be way off and that should be easy to check. No matter how expensive the unit, 3D, whatever, if it is sonar all the unit can do is measure time and distance and display it on the the big fancy screen. Those streaks just mean the fish is moving fast and either getting closer or further away from the transducer. Left to right is Time and up and down is Distance. If the top of the line is tilted left the fish came towards the transducer and if the top of the line is titled to the right it traveled further from the transducer. When you see a flat horizontal streak cross the screen it means the fish is staying under the transducer at the same distance.
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Re: Graph Interpetation
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08/05/17 04:41 PM
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This thread is kind of eye opening as to how many people don't know what their finders are showing. so are you saying that you don't know that they are also?
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Re: Graph Interpetation
[Re: Big Kahuna Fishing]
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08/06/17 01:18 AM
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It is fish swimming upwards my helix 9 mega does the same thing I seen it yesterday under the 2 mile bridge on tawakoni and as the surface started to explode we started catching bar Sandies and crappies,we are used to always seeing fish while they are horizontal but vertical produces a return signal that I believe is feeding fish.
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Re: Graph Interpetation
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08/06/17 03:56 AM
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Bobby Milam
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This thread is kind of eye opening as to how many people don't know what their finders are showing. so are you saying that you don't know that they are also? Yep. I always thought they were fishing coming up but now don't know. I thought that I was really one of the few who had trouble reading the graphs but seeing how there are so many different opinions and only one is going to be right, it just showed that maybe I'm not the only one.
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Re: Graph Interpetation
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08/06/17 01:08 PM
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those should be full arches if the transducer was set right if you were moving but probably sandbass.
You won't have arches if they are swimming up like that, nor have I ever had arches when they are swimming. My graph usually looks like those in top post when I fine fish feeding. I know my graph is set right. IMHO This time of year I am looking for a main lake point that look exactly like that post to fish between noon and 5 in the summer. This is correct. You do not get arches if the fish are moving and feeding like in the picture.
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Re: Graph Interpetation
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08/06/17 01:18 PM
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ezbassin
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first off transducer not set right Just exactly how do you "set" a transducer? I installed my transducers on the boat and on the trolling motor then I set up my electronics. I have never heard of "setting" a transducer.
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Re: Graph Interpetation
[Re: Big Kahuna Fishing]
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08/06/17 04:04 PM
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Those are interesting screen shots. I have not quite seen fish appear like that on my graph. However, I have seen fish move in directions in a very consistent pattern. With regards to arches versus streaks, there are a lot of variables that contribute to how the fish appear on the graph. I get both appearing on my graph, just depends on boat speed and what the fish are doing. I'll post examples of both for what I see on my equipment. Same transducer, same settings.
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Re: Graph Interpetation
[Re: Big Kahuna Fishing]
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08/06/17 09:34 PM
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Fishspanker
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Arches are usuallly your bigger fish. They are a more solid target for the transducer sonar to bounce back from. You want to see tightly formed dense arches. They are the good ones. Go with someone like Mark Pack who knows deep water electronics. He will check a number of spots with echoes looking for those he knows are solid bass before fishing.
That lower pic in the post above looks good. You should be able to catch those . Tight arches up on the structure feeding.
Last edited by Fishspanker; 08/06/17 09:35 PM.
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