No. That's not what I said. The industrial revolution was most definitely not a scam. It was an incredible time in American history and helped made her what she is today. Since that time period, one of the biggest scams has been ethanol, along with high-fructose corn syrup.

Unfortunately most are not interested in the facts if it interferes with their preconceived ideas.

I like watching the Farm and Ranch Report Saturday mornings. It's not been a good year. Some have replanted crops 3 times. Replanting Insurance is being used this year. What will this do to gas prices?

It may not be subsidized but it is still Mandated by law that fuel producers use it.
The amount that is being set for 2017 is 18.8 millions gallons must be used and a minimum of 10%.
So rather than pay subsidies they made it a law and just charge them a penalty if they don't comply.
Either way they are subsidizing the ethanol industry by forcing the producers to use it.
By creating a demand through law that guarantees the farmers sales of corn.

Ethanol is the cheapest octane booster used in gasoline right now. Even if it was free market, producers might keep blending ethanol to meet octane requirements.

Less energy I believe is correct....I burn non ethanol every chance I get ... in OKC area it readily available..I gain 1-2 mpg average in my truck a Tundra.....where is the savings ?...I am not sure what the point is in even having the ethanol [censored] at the pump....and no it doesn't burn cleaner either...

This is exactly right! There may not be any subsidies anymore, but this GD MANDATE is essentially the same thing. It forces refineries to buy corn juice to augment their/our fuel. We don't need it, don't want it, and darn sure shouldn't be using it for fuel. Want to read more?

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business...op-11277335.php

At the risk of sounding un-American, corn farmers are the new welfare class. Just like that lady you saw buying steaks in the Randall's with the WIC card, they are used to the money, (more like hooked on it). I hope someone figures out how wean 'em off of it soon.

My other thought was the amount of money spent on small engine repairs & replacements when Ethanol was mandated on the Country.

I trashed a couple of push mowers that I had used for years. A temporary boost to the Economy I suppose, but in the long run just more money out of your pocket.

It sad when Americans see something wrong going on in the Country but are unable to change the System.

If we could only get term limits in place the newly elected people in the system might then change the system.....sadly will probably never happen

Exactly. And by "corn farmers" we're talking Cargill, Valero, Green Plains, etc...

I am a guy that believes taxes, regulations and manadates from our government need to be reduced to allow our private industry to compete better with foreign companies on a global level. I do see that this puts money in some Americans pockets, However, I view this as another tax and mandate on the backs of the American people. If it makes sense economically, it can stand on its own.

Exactly. I know where there are two places that sell Efree gas and I usually keep about 20 gallons on hand. Use it in boats, lawn mowers, and mommas car.

You make way too much sense....we need to get term limits and this can happen...till then it is status quo

I wish some of you who are informed show us the alternatives to ethanol in gasoline. That would go a long way to make the discussion interesting. Ethanol is used as an oxygenate that makes gasoline burn more completely and cleaner. There are alternatives but in the arguments against ethanol they never get mentioned.

So are you saying ethanol is bad and you haven't a clue as to what to do about clean burning gasoline or you have reason to believe the alternative is better. It would make a better case to show the alternative.