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Re: thoughts on 2 over during a team tourney.
[Re: stringwise]
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05/02/17 03:18 AM
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Fisherdad58
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That's three more times than I've been stopped at Fork by the GW, and he wouldn't do anything.
It is pretty hypothetical. Thats more than I've been stopped any where in 40 years. I still wont be taking that chance of putting 2 overs in the livewell on the same day for any more time than it takes to get pics.
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Re: thoughts on 2 over during a team tourney.
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05/02/17 03:31 AM
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Re: thoughts on 2 over during a team tourney.
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05/02/17 03:34 AM
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Well! This has been a healthy discussion.
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Re: thoughts on 2 over during a team tourney.
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05/02/17 03:50 AM
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Fisherdad58
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Nothing....you didn't violate the law.... it's not a redfish tag chief.....but the ethics of tournament fishing on public waters is not a welcome topic here.... period. Ethics certainly doesn't seem to be a welcome topic for sure. What would all the people that make up the rules and enforce them do if we didn't have such a lack of ethics in the world. And dont forget the polygraph operators.
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Re: thoughts on 2 over during a team tourney.
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05/02/17 04:13 AM
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The Rodfather
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So when an over is weighed in, does it get released back in the lake immediately or does it go into the tournament holding tank? If it goes in the holding tank who then becomes possessor of that fish? Is there an agreement between TPWD and the tournament trail that allows them to possess all the fish until after weigh in?
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Re: thoughts on 2 over during a team tourney.
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05/02/17 04:39 AM
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David Burton
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So when an over is weighed in, does it get released back in the lake immediately or does it go into the tournament holding tank? If it goes in the holding tank who then becomes possessor of that fish? Is there an agreement between TPWD and the tournament trail that allows them to possess all the fish until after weigh in? It is the same as the Big Bass Events. It goes into possession of the trail for 'Live Release'. Yes, it is holding, in most cases, straight to the Live Release Boat. You have given up possession to a third party for live release, you are free to 'retain' another. That's the law, that's ethics, that's the rules!
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Re: thoughts on 2 over during a team tourney.
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05/02/17 04:46 AM
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Look...here's my beef. I got my arse kicked Saturday at Fork. Seriously. Look all the way down at the bottom and you will find my name. We fished the same area all day due to wind. We went with the slow down and focus on one area approach. We ended up with 2 unders and didn't bother weighing in. We watched a team fish the same spot all day long and every time I looked over there they were netting a fish. I got a serious case of the sore butt because we suck at fishing apparently.
Oh, and BTW, I'm not sure if I'm more impressed by the 2 overs or the 5 fish for 14.04 with no over. Surely somebody found a school of big spots right?? Best post on the whole thread! 
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Re: thoughts on 2 over during a team tourney.
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05/02/17 04:51 AM
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Curtbass
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Not sure about which party is the possessor. I DO know for a fact that SOME tournament circuits clearly state in their rules(not always in rules, but sometimes in circuit membership requirements-so check there if its not in rules)when a fish is weighed in , it becomes property of said organizer. Seems to me B.A.S.S had this at one time in the past. My interpretation of that ,leads me to believe that is why the organizers purchase permits to hold the event. I would believe thats why TPW charges for & issues permits. Its probably also why they work closely with organized tournament trails to have GW's present to assist & enforce game & fish laws. Also gives them opportunity to have biologist there to gather info & possibly track any fish they may have tagged or chipped in the past. Benefits all fishermen. As far as ETHICS : I know most, if not ALL, tournament circuits have exremely high ethics. Just because someone doesnt adhere to YOURE opinion of what ethics are, doesn't automatically make them unethical. Huge Congratulations to Burns brothers on a LEGAL,FAIR,& ETHICAL win!!! IMO!!!
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Re: thoughts on 2 over during a team tourney.
[Re: Fisherdad58]
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05/02/17 10:06 AM
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So you can be in possesion of an over and not in possesion of an over and so on all in the same day. Sounds like Schrodingers cat. I guess if PAW had a problem with it they would be on it. They probably wont ask me. Man some of you guys try to get way to technical on a very easy answer. I'll bet it take you guys 30 minutes to tie a technical knot like a palomar.
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Re: thoughts on 2 over during a team tourney.
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05/02/17 12:38 PM
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Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)
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Two big tournament wins from deserving guys this weekend and we have two threads trying to beat them down. The Whining is strong after this weekend some of yall must of got your butts chapped in a club tournament real bad.
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Re: thoughts on 2 over during a team tourney.
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05/02/17 12:45 PM
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Tracker Tim
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Did they have their life jackets buckled before they started in with the first over?
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Re: thoughts on 2 over during a team tourney.
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05/02/17 01:09 PM
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This post makes me wonder about humanity.
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Re: thoughts on 2 over during a team tourney.
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05/02/17 01:31 PM
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buda13
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Two big tournament wins from deserving guys this weekend and we have two threads trying to beat them down. The Whining is strong after this weekend some of yall must of got your butts chapped in a club tournament real bad. Where are folks trying to beat down the winners on this thread? Its a simple discussion about multiple overs in Fork tournaments. I have not seen anyone trying to take a darn thing away from the awesomeness of what the anglers accomplished. If your reading it that way your probably reading the thread with a pre determined thought in your head, or just overall bad attitude.
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Re: thoughts on 2 over during a team tourney.
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05/02/17 01:35 PM
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Curtbass
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They WON!! Plain & simple!! according to rules posted & broke no laws while doing it. AND I'm sure they could give a RATS A$; what anybody on here thinks. Same as me. Once again :CONGRATULATIONS to Burns Brothers.
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Re: thoughts on 2 over during a team tourney.
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05/02/17 01:48 PM
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I see multiple 5 fish stringers in team tournaments on Alan Henry where only 1 over is weighed in. I've also heard countless stories on how 1 person caught all of the fish. I'm still waiting for them to make sure each angler was responsible for 2 unders. Have yet to hear that question asked at Alan Henry or Ivie.
Don't understand why it should be different for big fish. They are all getting released at the end of the day.
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