Forums59
Topics1,056,735
Posts14,273,613
Members144,593
|
Most Online39,925 Dec 30th, 2023
|
|
Flw and Bass
#12217788
04/26/17 07:01 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 563
Tennessee_Fisherman
OP
Pro Angler
|
OP
Pro Angler
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 563 |
Here is another weekend we're both organizations have a tournament one on Beaver lake the other one on Ross Barnett. I know as a fan of the sport it's hard to choose which one I will follow this Friday live on FLW live or Bassmaster live. Both organizations claim that they have the best anglers in the world . Is it time for them to work together to figure that out who is the best and we can have true World Champion.
Is it time for these organizations to work together to capitalize on their fan bases.. I like both organizations but it really is difficult to choose which one I will follow this week. I have a lot of friends that only watch FLW they could care less about the Elite angler. They like FLW because of the grass root angler . But making the elites is no picnic either. My friend compared it to college football or NFL football. Some people prefer college football over pro football but watch both but if they had a preference they would choose college because of the rivalry and the tradition .
So I would like to get your opinion which one are you going to watch or follow this weekend ? I lean more to Beaver lake because I'm visiting there this week this summer. But I guess I will have both on at the same time like Last two week when the elites were Toledo bend and flw on lake Cumberland.
|
|
Re: Flw and Bass
[Re: Tennessee_Fisherman]
#12217803
04/26/17 07:07 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,265
BMCD
TFF Celebrity
|
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 5,265 |
Many FLW anglers are fishing to qualify via the opens. I think its already happening.
I'll be watching BASS but will keep an eye on FLW.
|
|
Re: Flw and Bass
[Re: Tennessee_Fisherman]
#12217804
04/26/17 07:08 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 74,866
Mark Perry
Super Freak
|
Super Freak
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 74,866 |
They are two competing businesses and doubt you will see them working together since they are targeting the same customer base.
|
|
Re: Flw and Bass
[Re: Tennessee_Fisherman]
#12217808
04/26/17 07:11 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,761
InTheClear
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,761 |
Elites, it not even a close comparison to me. I'd actually be shocked if FLW is even still around in 5 years?
|
|
Re: Flw and Bass
[Re: Tennessee_Fisherman]
#12217820
04/26/17 07:17 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 45,134
CCTX
mapquest
|
mapquest
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 45,134 |
I'll record and watch both If I had to choose; the deciding factor would be the lake. Which one has bigger bass/which one is fishing better/which one has better scenery; etc I've always wanted to fish Ross Barnett; so I'd choose that one
I prefer the commentators on BASS, but I like the MC on FLW
The competition quality is very similar; maybe with a slight edge to the Elites and I do like watching the additional challenge of not using a net
But, if the elites are on a river/lake with the leaders catching limits of 2-3lbers; I'd choose the FLW option
|
|
Re: Flw and Bass
[Re: Tennessee_Fisherman]
#12217836
04/26/17 07:25 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 9,268
the skipper
TFF Celebrity
|
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 9,268 |
At one time they were scheduled to where guys could fish both series. I guess one or both got tired of people switching over or fishing the competitions tour so it was changed. Almost like how BASS bought out the Toyota Bass Classic and now it's elites only.
|
|
Re: Flw and Bass
[Re: InTheClear]
#12217838
04/26/17 07:27 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,293
Bigron119
TFF Team Angler
|
TFF Team Angler
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,293 |
Elites, it not even a close comparison to me. I'd actually be shocked if FLW is even still around in 5 years? Gonna save this post!
|
|
Re: Flw and Bass
[Re: Bigron119]
#12217842
04/26/17 07:30 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,761
InTheClear
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,761 |
Elites, it not even a close comparison to me. I'd actually be shocked if FLW is even still around in 5 years? Gonna save this post! Put in your signature
|
|
Re: Flw and Bass
[Re: Tennessee_Fisherman]
#12217858
04/26/17 07:42 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 2,123
Brad R
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 2,123 |
A good analogy might be the old AFL and NFL. The NFL was supposed to be the dominant league . . . then along came Joe Namath. In the end, both bass organizations could survive or there could be a merger. Put a KVD-type dominant performer in one or the other of the two organizations . . .and if they play it right, they can parlay that into new viewers and move the needle in their direction.
There are still different rules in MLB so slight rule variations (netting fish was mentioned) is no big deal.
What is ruinous to most sports is loss of control. I bet there aren't 5% of us guys who could name the heavyweight boxing champion of the world right now. In my youth, all sports fans new, most of the general public, too, but no longer. So, by "loss of control" I mean too many federations, someone coming along like a Don King can do it, too, weakening of important rules or take-overs by the athletes themselves. Powerlifting became a televised sport for a "wink of an eye's time" in the long history of sports in the 1970s . . . then, like boxing, it devolved into a political mess and imploded. Today, it is largely gone never to get any TV air time again I suspect. Once burned . . .
This will be interesting to follow and see how developments play out. I like both of the organizations but I see the FLW as being something slightly lower in terms of prestige.
Brad
|
|
Re: Flw and Bass
[Re: Brad R]
#12217947
04/26/17 08:35 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 74,866
Mark Perry
Super Freak
|
Super Freak
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 74,866 |
A good analogy might be the old AFL and NFL. The NFL was supposed to be the dominant league . . . then along came Joe Namath. In the end, both bass organizations could survive or there could be a merger. Put a KVD-type dominant performer in one or the other of the two organizations . . .and if they play it right, they can parlay that into new viewers and move the needle in their direction.
There are still different rules in MLB so slight rule variations (netting fish was mentioned) is no big deal.
What is ruinous to most sports is loss of control. I bet there aren't 5% of us guys who could name the heavyweight boxing champion of the world right now. In my youth, all sports fans new, most of the general public, too, but no longer. So, by "loss of control" I mean too many federations, someone coming along like a Don King can do it, too, weakening of important rules or take-overs by the athletes themselves. Powerlifting became a televised sport for a "wink of an eye's time" in the long history of sports in the 1970s . . . then, like boxing, it devolved into a political mess and imploded. Today, it is largely gone never to get any TV air time again I suspect. Once burned . . .
This will be interesting to follow and see how developments play out. I like both of the organizations but I see the FLW as being something slightly lower in terms of prestige.
Brad Brian Thrift Andy Morgan
|
|
Re: Flw and Bass
[Re: Mark Perry]
#12218007
04/26/17 08:58 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 16,200
Kay Dyson
HOT Mess!!!
|
HOT Mess!!!
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 16,200 |
Mark Rose Scott Martin Clark Wendlandt John Cox There are some seriously good anglers on the FLW... Many of them could compete and do well against any other angler no matter what organization they fish in...
|
|
Re: Flw and Bass
[Re: Kay Dyson]
#12218040
04/26/17 09:14 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 7,677
TBassYates
TFF Celebrity
|
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 7,677 |
Mark Rose Scott Martin Clark Wendlandt John Cox There are some seriously good anglers on the FLW... Many of them could compete and do well against any other angler no matter what organization they fish in... Larry Nixon
|
|
Re: Flw and Bass
[Re: Tennessee_Fisherman]
#12218041
04/26/17 09:14 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 7,854
crankn101
TFF Celebrity
|
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 7,854 |
I think the talent pool is a little deeper in BASS but the top 10 in either org are neck and neck with each other.
|
|
Re: Flw and Bass
[Re: Tennessee_Fisherman]
#12218046
04/26/17 09:17 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 7,854
crankn101
TFF Celebrity
|
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 7,854 |
Which one will I watch or follow? Neither
doing household duties on sat then fishing a club tourney on sunday. Its going to be around 27 degrees at launch time then geting up into the 50s.
|
|
Re: Flw and Bass
[Re: Tennessee_Fisherman]
#12218074
04/26/17 09:37 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 563
Tennessee_Fisherman
OP
Pro Angler
|
OP
Pro Angler
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 563 |
I've been to the Forest Wood Cup and Classic . Both for basically the same with the edge to Bass on graphics and overall experience. I was just thinking about the venues they could pull if they were together but I would like to see league where Brian Thrift, Andy Morgan Kevin Vandam, Scott Martin others . If you ever sit through weigh in I tend to recognize more names from bass than .FLW . I just know the top 15 NFL
If I have the money and the resources I would buy both organizations and change of this game and I would also tap into the western fisheries there's a lot of money out west. I know how I would do it I would basically allow both organizations to keep fishing 7tournaments a year at the end of the year the top 25 in each circuit in the AOY standing would qualify to fish a series of tournaments call the Elites.
Elite tournaments series would be 3 tournament after that the champion . a true AOY champion Then we would take the top 25 from FLW and 25 from Bass. The open winners / Flw open winners That would bring my total anglers fishing for the world championship of bass fishing 58 anglers
It's that simple boys and I would bring back Bassfest/ Cupfest Where pros would randomly be selected to fish a team tournaments with each other. It will be fun to see that. I would imagine that it will be some funny looking partners like :Brian thrift/ Tommy Bifle
|
|
Moderated by banker-always fishing, chickenman, Derek 🐝, Duck_Hunter, Fish Killer, J-2, Jacob, Jons3825, JustWingem, Nocona Brian, Toon-Troller, Uncle Zeek, Weekender1
|