texasfishingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
Bob81, juan2025, Mjlucky, Azskeeter, Mjhover
119646 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
TexDawg 125,160
hopalong 121,182
Bigbob_FTW 105,364
Bob Davis 97,551
John175☮ 86,148
Pilothawk 83,939
Mark Perry 74,891
Derek 🐝 68,517
JDavis7873� 67,416
Forum Statistics
Forums59
Topics1,059,246
Posts14,316,582
Members144,646
Most Online39,925
Dec 30th, 2023
Print Thread
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
Where to learn how to offshore fish? #12215578 04/25/17 04:00 PM
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 913
W
Walker_wilson13 Offline OP
Pro Angler
OP Offline
Pro Angler
W
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 913
I have the graphs and the ability to start offshore fishing and I want to take that next step and learn how to graph fish. Where is a good lake where you can locate fish somewhat easily? Most lakes around the DFW area are difficult to actually learn the skill for the first time, but does anyone have any recommendations? Anything helps!


Walker Wilson
2011 Ranger Z520 Comanche
YouTube Channel: https://m.youtube.com/user/wcjghunters
Instagram: Walkerwilson13
Moritz Chevrolet - 9101 Camp Bowie W Blvd, Fort Worth, TX - Monte Coon (817) 696-2003
Re: Where to learn how to offshore fish? [Re: Walker_wilson13] #12215589 04/25/17 04:10 PM
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,070
bccougar Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,070
Ray Roberts has a lot of good structure to learn on (slabs, brush piles, road beds and good rock points). cedar creek is a good choice as well(lots of flats with points breaking into the main lake). lake Arlington has a lot of good smaller off shore structure like rock piles. pick your poison. if you don't mind a drive, Richland chambers is awesome.



www.anglersprotackle.com -Anglers Pro Tackle Pro staff
www.doublezzcustomlures.com -Double ZZ Custom Lures
www.mercurymarine.com -Mercury Pro Staff
www.power-pole.com -Power-Pole Pro Staff
www.midwestmarineonline.com -Midwest Marine


Re: Where to learn how to offshore fish? [Re: Walker_wilson13] #12215593 04/25/17 04:11 PM
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,070
bccougar Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,070
if you want to really crush them, I recommend Lake Worth for off shore structure fishing! j/k

Last edited by bccougar; 04/25/17 04:13 PM.


www.anglersprotackle.com -Anglers Pro Tackle Pro staff
www.doublezzcustomlures.com -Double ZZ Custom Lures
www.mercurymarine.com -Mercury Pro Staff
www.power-pole.com -Power-Pole Pro Staff
www.midwestmarineonline.com -Midwest Marine


Re: Where to learn how to offshore fish? [Re: Walker_wilson13] #12215635 04/25/17 04:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,559
J
Jarrett Latta Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
J
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,559
Get a guide that fishes offshore on fork

Re: Where to learn how to offshore fish? [Re: Jarrett Latta] #12215639 04/25/17 04:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,229
Sinkey Offline
Tidy Scoop
Offline
Tidy Scoop
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,229
Originally Posted By: Jaret Latta
Get a guide that fishes offshore on fork


This!

Re: Where to learn how to offshore fish? [Re: Walker_wilson13] #12215664 04/25/17 04:37 PM
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 39,218
F
Frank the Tank Online Content
TFF Guru
Online Content
TFF Guru
F
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 39,218
Yep


Jesus loves all of us
Re: Where to learn how to offshore fish? [Re: Walker_wilson13] #12215723 04/25/17 04:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 20,224
Donald Harper Online Happy
TFF Guru
Online Happy
TFF Guru
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 20,224
From Shallow to Deep:

The whole purpose of Shallow Water Mapping is to find the fish that you are going to search for later after you find the 3 best shallow water spots on your lake. My goal is to give you this start by helping you recognize the cove, creeks, flats, and structure that is required to find bigger Bass. Once you learn this you will have no trouble following them to their comfort zones as mentioned below.

In most reservoirs, bass reside on ledges and drop-offs adjacent to shallow-water feeding grounds. They travel along these areas in search of food. On the deep side of the ledge or drop-off, bass experience comfortable temperatures and better oxygen levels. The depth provides shelter while the shallow side provides food sources such as Minnows, Bluegill, Night Crawlers and Crayfish. To determine where to start your search, look for ledges and drop-offs with a significant edge. The faster the drop from shallow feeding grounds to deep water, the more comfortable a bass feels in its environment.

Fishing the channels, will help you recognize the important factors in deciding which areas should be most productive. Fishing at a depth of 8 to 15 ft. on the lip or edge of the channel is the more productive depth that you will find these comfort zones. A good map then should be used to see where the channels are located in various coves and regions of the lake.

Remember the pH scale? Bass are found in pH near 7. The cheapest one is the Color C Selector. Bass can tolerate pH from 5 to 8.5, and they can grow and be caught in waters throughout that range. The pH in many renowned Texas Bass lakes is 6 to 6.5.

Fact: Bass live where they have favorable temperature, adequate oxygen, and appropriate cover (which could be reduced light). They feed where the forage is. The bass� life is good when their resting and feeding habitat is the same. As long as ample forage is in shallow water, some bass will be there, no matter what season; but a lot of forage fish move to deeper water to find their preferred temperature or comfort zone.

We are looking for flats and other locations with deep water nearby. Experience has taught me that the fish will move off toward deeper water as fall turns into winter. Huge Bass will not move any farther than they have to, however.

If Bass are on the top of a hump, I will look for them alongside of that same hump. If they were feeding up on a point in shallow water, I will follow that same point out to where it drops off into a channel or a breakline.

For safety and to preclude outside disturbance, bass will always move back to positions near deeper water when not actively pursuing food. This depth range, as I stated before, is usually between eight and 15 feet. Therefore, the most potentially productive ledges will be within that range. I think isolated cover is always "the deal," but that's especially true after a cold front. It doesn't matter whether you're fishing deep or shallow, wood or grass, clear or dirty water, postfrontal bass are going to be holding around isolated cover.

The terms 'cover' and 'structure' are NOT synonymous. They are different features. The potential of a given structure feature can be reasonably determined by: The nearby availability of 25 feet or more of depth; And, the 'steepness' of the drop-off associated with the access to that depth.

Cover consists of weeds, brush, grass or timber, and is used for ambush. It is not used for his protection. Bass will develop a route from there comfort zone moving from one piece of cover to another until they have fed up then return. Sometime they have to continue along this route all the way to the shoreline. Structure is for resting, comfort, security and for feeding just outside of the cover. The best of two worlds is finding a piece of structure as shallow as possible with cover on it. Now we have them cornered.

A productive structure feature is one which provides ready availability of food or serves as a reference point during periods of inactivity. In most cases, the bigger bass will be found on the best piece of structure that has cover and baitfish.

When a bass experiences fear or senses danger, his instinctive reaction is to dash for deep water.

Unless actively feeding, a bass will always hold near the edge of the drop into deep water.

Of all available structure features, ledges and drops are the most common AND the most continuously productive.

A `drop' is a contour change resulting in deeper water and has a downwards angler of decent of 30 degrees, or more. Any change less than 30 degrees is considered a slope and will not be as productive.

A `ledge' is the upper lip, or edge, of a drop.

While ledges and drops usually exist throughout a body of water, those associated with submerged channels and the deepest water in the area are always more consistently productive.

Ledges are a strange beast�sometimes you can fish a mile without any bites, then find several quality schools of bass in the next mile.

The next phase of locating our potential 'honey holes' is to back away from the old channels and look for similar contour variations and cover features in back-water sections of the lake or river. Apply the same rationale as before, but be especially conscious of the proximity of the deepest available water. This is where I do my shallow water mapping.

The quickest way to locate good ledges and drops is to consult a well-defined topographical map. I will start your map analysis near river and feeder creek channels and look for strong bottom irregularities and rapid contour (depth) changes. I will key in on those that fall within the 8-15 foot range. You will survey the general area for indications of cover close by as you fish these spots. The final step becomes to prioritize the list. To do this, I select the locations with the sharpest drop-off and deepest adjacent water and number them. Then they are rated using about 25 different factors that make a spot the best it can be. You now have a plan of attack which has been thought out in a logical manner. I primarily rely on my instincts when locating big Bass year round.

I find a lot more fish with a rod and reel than I do with a depth finder, I�ve idled over places that look okay without many fish, then turn around and absolutely wear them out. If I passed it over, I would have never caught them.

Spend some time learning where they are on your favorite lake and start with small areas that you have selected from my mapping. You cannot absorb the layout for the whole lake all at once. Just remember few fish are caught while you are running the boat from place to place.


Your goal is to find the best 3 shallow water spots on your lake. Your next goal is to find the best 3 second drop spots by fishing all the cover between the shallows and the bass's comfort zone. Your third goal is to find the 3 best ledges which will keep you on those bass as they return to their home environment and comfort zone. Having these 9 areas to fish each day whether your in a tournament of fun fishing is a must.


Each person you work with holds some promise to your future success.
Websiite Sponsors:
www.eletewater.com - Staying Hydrated
www.lakeoviachic.com - Booking Mexico Trips
20 Hot Spot Mapping - GPS Contour Chips - Custom Spinner Baits - Jigs -Spooks
Pure Extracts - Minnow-Night Crawler-Crayfish-Craylic


Re: Where to learn how to offshore fish? [Re: Walker_wilson13] #12215771 04/25/17 05:16 PM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,229
Sinkey Offline
Tidy Scoop
Offline
Tidy Scoop
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,229
Damn.....did you get Carpal Tunnel typing all that? roflmao

Good info though for sure!

Re: Where to learn how to offshore fish? [Re: Walker_wilson13] #12215782 04/25/17 05:21 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 45,774
C
CCTX Online Content
mapquest
Online Content
mapquest
C
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 45,774
Learning to offshore fish: I'd start at a smaller lake like Lake Waxahachie
Smaller lake with protection from N/S winds and some decent depth/contours/structure to learn on:


[Linked Image]
Re: Where to learn how to offshore fish? [Re: Walker_wilson13] #12215887 04/25/17 05:56 PM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 9,503
Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life) Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 9,503
Lake Tyler they are easy to find and graph. Good luck graphing anything but white bass on cedar creek thats more of a cover/structure lake than a lake where you graph a pile of fish then catch them. Fork is good option as well I would not hire a guide at first. Get your own experiences first and figure out what you struggle with. The hardest part of deep fishing is finding the fish and then boat position. Catching and working the lures is the easy part most of the time.

Re: Where to learn how to offshore fish? [Re: Walker_wilson13] #12215915 04/25/17 06:09 PM
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,970
N
nitroslim Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
N
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,970
I would disagree on the guide part. Hire one that is good with electronics, ( most are ) and see if they will go on your boat to make sure you are dialed in and teach you how to tweak the electronics. Then ask a lot of questions, what do they look for on the map, ( Dons post above is great) What do they look for on the GPS map, how do they mark something ( one waypoint or several ) I try and do three. One for what I want to fish and name it, the others for boat position in north or south wind because that's really all we get.

There really are no wrong answers.

Last edited by nitroslim; 04/25/17 06:10 PM.
Re: Where to learn how to offshore fish? [Re: Sinkey] #12215959 04/25/17 06:34 PM
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 859
C_Fisher Offline
Pro Angler
Offline
Pro Angler
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 859
Originally Posted By: Sinkey
Originally Posted By: Jaret Latta
Get a guide that fishes offshore on fork


This!


Mark Pack

Re: Where to learn how to offshore fish? [Re: Walker_wilson13] #12215999 04/25/17 06:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,559
J
Jarrett Latta Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
J
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,559
Yup one that runs similar electronics to what you will be using

Re: Where to learn how to offshore fish? [Re: bccougar] #12216010 04/25/17 07:04 PM
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 913
W
Walker_wilson13 Offline OP
Pro Angler
OP Offline
Pro Angler
W
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 913
Even as inexperienced as I am with offshore fishing I'll take a pass on this one roflmao

Re: Where to learn how to offshore fish? [Re: Walker_wilson13] #12216014 04/25/17 07:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,559
J
Jarrett Latta Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
J
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,559
Originally Posted By: Walker_wilson13
Even as inexperienced as I am with offshore fishing I'll take a pass on this one roflmao


Why? Pass on a guide trip? You will learn more in that one trip than 10 on your own idling around aimlessly. It'll cost about the same...

Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 1998-2022 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3