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Re: hybrids repooduce? [Re: Tex Pat] #1219918 03/30/07 03:51 AM
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yes I have been checked Little Elm
Tower bay and 121 cut.

The wardens have been around the lake checking big boats for clean water stickers and hopefully writing some tickets

To many boats are emptying sewage in the lake after leaving the boats in the slips and not pumping them out a couple of weeks
ago JAW and watched several boats leave the Marina cruise slowly just past the 35 bridge and leave a trail after dumping sewage from boat and return to slip.

The Hybrid numbers put in the lake last year if we can keep people educated and keep these fish in the lake a full 18 months The hydrid fishing should be awesome in the fall.

I see people all the time that keep under size hybrids and do not seem to know the limits on whites .Not my place to police but
Hope everyone can help make sure as many people as posible are
aware.I wish the Warden would visit us more often it would be good for the lake.



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Re: hybrids repooduce? [Re: tbarnes065] #1220290 03/30/07 12:33 PM
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A mule is a cross between a horse and a donkey. It is sterile and cannot produce viable offspring. But hybrids can and do produce viable offspring. As has been stated only 2-3% at most. Even under ideas circumstances, at 3% per year, the hybrid could not sustain a fishery. There would have to be major stockings every year.

And on the off chance you get caught with a questionable looking sandbass and the warden wants to give you a ticket for an undersized hybrid, tell him that you would like to request that the state of Texas certify this fish as a hybrid with genetic testing. Now, I certainly don't condone taking undersized hybrids, quite the opposite, but there are a very small percentage of fish I catch that don't exactly look like hybrids or sandies. For the ticket to hold up in court, there will have to be genetic testing.

Re: hybrids repooduce? [Re: hybrid_hunter] #1220652 03/30/07 02:46 PM
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isn'tthat like poking a rattle snake with a short stick

Re: hybrids repooduce? [Re: hybrid_hunter] #1220825 03/30/07 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: hybrid_hunter
A mule is a cross between a horse and a donkey. It is sterile and cannot produce viable offspring.


Sorry, but even the mule is not always sterile. In a previous post to this topic, I looked for an interspecies hybrid that was sterile and did the research on the mule. It turns out that even mules occasionally have offspring, some of which can reproduce themselves with zero difficulty.

I found the information from sources cited on Wikipedia (article "mule"). For those interested, horses and donkeys have different numbers of chromosomes which helps to make the mule mostly sterile. Offspring from mules are so rare that it makes news when it happens and there has been much chromosomal study on the offspring. Some of the offspring are genetically screwed, but some are 100% ok.



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Re: hybrids repooduce? [Re: gregorkhan] #1220839 03/30/07 04:26 PM
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Wednesday, 2 October, 2002, 08:56 GMT 09:56 UK
Morocco's miracle mule


The mule's owners did not realise it was pregnant



By the BBC's Katty Kay


A mule has given birth to a male foal in a hamlet deep in rural Morocco.
No big deal, you may think, but in fact the birth was a minor scientific miracle.

A mule is the hybrid of a horse and a donkey and should be sterile - except in this instance.

There have only been two substantiated cases of a mule giving birth in the past quarter century: one in China in 1988 and the other also in Morocco in 1984.



The mule's aged owner did not realise the mule was pregnant and rode her 20 kilometres to market the day before the birth

Since 1527, (when records began on the issue) there have only been a total of 60 reported cases of mules giving birth.

"The occurrence is so historically rare that the Romans had a saying Cum mula peperit, meaning 'when a mule foals', the equivalent of our 'once in a very blue moon'," explained Dr Gigi Kay, a horse vet with the charity the Society for the Protection of Animals Abroad, who has visited the mother and son.

Paying tribute

The 14-year-old mother mule gave birth on 28 August, in a small hamlet of three poor farms in the region of Oulmes, 80 kilometres south of the ancient city of Fez.

The farm is nestled at the foot of the Atlas mountains, where the mother mule has become a cult.

She and her foal have been visited by streams of people, many of whom travelled for hours to pay tribute to the miracle birth and bring gifts to the owner and the animal.


The mule has become a local attraction

The mule's aged owner, a farming woman whose face is covered in traditional local tattoos, did not realise the mule was pregnant and rode her 20 kilometres to market the day before the birth.

Dr Kay is running blood tests on both the mother and the foal. She said the science defied belief.

A horse has 64 chromosomes and a donkey has 62, so a mule is left with 63, an uneven number which cannot divide into chromosome pairs. This should make a mule unable to reproduce.

The Moroccan foal looks a bit like a baby donkey and a bit like a baby mule - but not exactly like either.



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Re: hybrids repooduce? [Re: gregorkhan] #1221589 03/30/07 10:26 PM
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a mule gave birth to a hybrid? boy was this hijacked.

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