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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character [Re: bluesea112] #12121103 03/03/17 01:05 AM
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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character [Re: fmclee] #12121368 03/03/17 03:38 AM
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LOL!! Man those largemouth eat good!


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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character [Re: Tx Tree Grower] #12121551 03/03/17 08:36 AM
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LOL!! Man those largemouth eat good!


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roflmao its as if my birthday has arrived and i'm not even the one who caught these!!!! Hats off to you sir!!!


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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character [Re: bluesea112] #12121580 03/03/17 11:48 AM
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Decent topic of discussion, just not the right species of fish to relate it to. (cough...Blue Catfish...cough!) wink

Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character [Re: fmclee] #12121607 03/03/17 12:35 PM
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The good thing about those largemouths is they never get too big to eat cheers

Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character [Re: 44 Diesel] #12122607 03/03/17 11:00 PM
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The good thing about those largemouths is they never get too big to eat cheers
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Yup ... Helped clean a private lake out a FEW years back .... BIG FISH FRY !!!!!!

Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character [Re: bluesea112] #12122921 03/04/17 02:31 AM
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Bluesea 112, I've been on this forum since 03 but haven't posted in several years, but you sir should keep your thoughts to your self. There are wildlife biologists with waaaaaaaay more knowledge about fish populations than you have. We have set size limits and daily catch limits for a reason. If you don't like it then take it up with TPWD instead of criticizing law abiding fishermen on a forum.

Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character [Re: bluesea112] #12122944 03/04/17 02:42 AM
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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character [Re: TCK73] #12123023 03/04/17 03:38 AM
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I don't think you have anything to worry about. Several States don't even have size or number limits on them and they still flourish. I suppose you think all guides are stoopid and need help looking manly? This has gone on for years and years, the only difference is now you hear about it due to Facebook and forums where it is discussed.

Here is my kid with his limit of 25 from a couple of weeks ago. These were not spawning fish either, they came from deep non moving water. He probably feels more like an adult than a 13 year old kid now.





Outstanding catch guys cheers


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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character [Re: Tx. Fisher] #12123117 03/04/17 04:48 AM
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I disagree. He has ever right to post his thoughts here. I personally disagree with what he said, but still he has every right to post it. When someone posts something that we do not like or agree with, we do not have to reply to it or view it.

Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character [Re: bluesea112] #12123162 03/04/17 06:24 AM
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He has no right to call people stupid, who did nothing wrong but keeping legal limit of fishes.


Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character [Re: bluesea112] #12123588 03/04/17 05:35 PM
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Freedom to state ypur opinion is something I served for! My opinion is he is naively uniformed and incorrect. We have nothing to worry about. All states have very intensive regulations that are in place to preserve aquatic populations for generations to come!


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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character [Re: bluesea112] #12125121 03/05/17 06:40 PM
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I've been fishing for whites/sandbass for most of my life since I could hold a fishing rod, and I just turned 70.
I've been around since before there were limits and people would come back to the launch with over 300 fish in the boat because that was all they could carry or want to clean, and there were plenty of fish year in and year out.
The white bass are prolific spawners and seem to do better year after year and I think it's due to not having as much competition for baitfish, and thus nature has a way to fill the void year after year. Nothing scientific but just from years of observation.
What bothers me more than people keeping spawning bass is the rudeness large numbers of people exhibit toward others, as if they don't move in and crowd someone they won't get their share.
People, there are plenty of fish for everyone and no need to disrespect others just to try and get to a spot or muscle people out of your way with a me first attitude.
Fishing during the run should be fun, and there are plenty of fish for everyone, and nobody owns the river or creek.
Be courteous, catch your limit, and don't worry about what others think because there will be just as many, if not more next year.

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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character [Re: bluesea112] #12125265 03/05/17 08:44 PM
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I remember a few years back reading a report from a tpwd biologist saying that there was no scientific basis for putting a limit on white bass, as it didn't seem possible that anglers could catch enough to cause their numbers to decline. I'd have to agree.

White bass are prolific spawners and the only thing that limits the population is the amount of available food. Each female can lay up to 500,000 eggs. A few dozen spawners can result in tens of millions of fry. We couldn't hurt the population if we tried.

(I haven't taken home any fish in years, I'm just sayin...)

Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character [Re: bluesea112] #12126037 03/06/17 06:27 AM
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People sponging up all the fish they can legally carry can make it harder for the average Joe who fishes a few times a year with his wife and kids and a few spincast combos and bucket of minnows to catch a few fish. However the limit system we have is on a first come first serve basis, so it is was it is. It seems like it would be fun to have a small dedicated catch and release lake or something like that in heavily urbanized areas like DFW, Houston, San Antonio, where fish would be stupid easy to catch by kids or whatever. I say this because I grew up in a rural area where it was stupid easy to catch fish not because I love government mandated limits. Anyway I don't fault anyone for taking a limit with the current laws.

Having said all of that I groan a bit reading all of the wishful thinking that sandbass can never be over fished. I'd say take one of the biggest metropolitan areas in the country and add a major prolonged drought and it's a recipe to greatly reduce the White Bass population.

I am thinking back to the Lake Lewisville "Lake S**k" forum threads from 2014 or so where after years of drought the regulars and guides had trouble catching limits or even a decent number of fish for an extended period of time. At that time with the drought the bankers and gill-netters hammered the creeks hard during the spawn for two years where only 3 or 4 "creeks" on the Lake were even deep enough to let the sandbass pass through. There was even a fish kill where some sort of poison killed the fish and turtles in one of the few creeks with enough water to support the spawn.

Anyway when I read the last population reports for Lake Lewisville they are interesting. The White Bass population was down.
http://tpwd.texas.gov/publications/pwdpubs/lake_survey/pwd_rp_t3200_1324/
"Temperate basses: White Bass catch rates decreased from the previous survey."
Reading the actual document shows the last netted fish count was about 1/2 the typical/normal catch rate of previous surveys for White Bass.

I am sure that the state does not care enough about White Bass to change limits unless there was some sort of fundamental melt down. It seems like they could simply stock hybrids to make up the numbers (which sounds fun to me). Anyway after one good long flood cycle like what we had recently the population is coming back nicely. But the drought did not remove fish from the lake, it was people. The fish still has a few good areas to spawn even with the drought but they were simply hammered. If the drought had continued to present day the fishing would be that much worse I am certain.

I guess one other point, I do agree that just because something is legal doesn't make it moral. I could get drunk every night for instance and this would be legal but it would not be a moral action for my family and my own health. I wouldn't lump fishing into this category but I do see the original poster's point.

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