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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character
[Re: bluesea112]
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03/01/17 11:49 AM
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texdanm
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White bass have very short life spans. Most die of old age. Texas Parks and Wildlife monoters their numbers and adjusts the various parameters of the limits. Where I fish above Lake Livingston it is 10" and 25 fish but a few years ago it was 50 fish and at one time the size was 12" As near as I can tell they are doing a pretty good job and the fishing is still pretty great. I imagine that most of the caught white bass are caught during the spring spawning run. I believe if you would study their spawning method you would see that unlike other longer lived species fishing for the spawning females has less effect.
They run up the creeks in mass drop their eggs and leave. The flow of the water during the spawn will have more to do with its success than the number that made the trip. A couple of time in recent years rains and floods up near Dallas have almost killed the spawn. The rising river waters made the currents in the creeks actually run backwards. This both confused the poor fish to no end and then the water sat slack for a long time until FINALLY the waters went down. The eggs are dependent on current to move them along and prevent them from getting buried in stagnant holes. That is why they run as far up the creeks as they can. I have seen them in less than 6" of water still fighting their way up from one pool to the next until there just wasn't any water left for them to run in.
As long as most of the fish are dying uncaught and the numbers are good and steady then let the people that like to eat the fish have all they want. Most of them probably won't even fish for them again until next year. Personally I hate cleaning fish for several hours and since I basically live within a mile of the river I don't stock my freezer like I used to when I couldn't fish several times a week like I can now.
I hate waste but understand that if you like to eat fish and don't live on the water like I do sometimes then when they bite you want a bunch to bring home for the freezer.
You know that old saying "Some people march to the beat of a different drummer."? I don't listen to a drum at all and have meandered through life instead of marching.
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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character
[Re: bluesea112]
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03/01/17 12:16 PM
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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character
[Re: voodew]
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03/01/17 02:46 PM
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I understand what the original poster is saying - there are some on here that are good at catching white bass - they bring their friends and fill a 140 qt cooler - twice a weekend - every weekend. It is a little over kill if you ask me. And just FYI we have boated over 3200 fish this year - bet we haven't kept over 20 hybrids and 150 whites total (All of these fish were main lake fish in different phases of spawning) Just because you can legally keep them doesn't mean you always should - yes it is your legal right to keep 25 per day, but if your that good at catching white bass why not just keep what you need? For those of you who come to a fishing forum and get upset that someone else caught fish.Puppies and kittens!  
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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character
[Re: bluesea112]
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03/01/17 10:52 PM
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The end! I hope? See ya'll on the water. Tight lines!
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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character
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03/02/17 05:21 AM
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I don't think you have anything to worry about. Several States don't even have size or number limits on them and they still flourish. I suppose you think all guides are stoopid and need help looking manly? This has gone on for years and years, the only difference is now you hear about it due to Facebook and forums where it is discussed. Here is my kid with his limit of 25 from a couple of weeks ago. These were not spawning fish either, they came from deep non moving water. He probably feels more like an adult than a 13 year old kid now. Nice mess of fish by your son, tell him congrats and hope he does well all spring. Getting kids out fishing is a great thing for them and our future.
Slide right, coming in .... Fish On!
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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character
[Re: bluesea112]
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03/02/17 02:37 PM
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BMART
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I am going to try and catch some large mouth for a change, hopefully catch five legal ones for the grease Bass
The combined limit for any combination of largemouth, smallmouth, Guadalupe and spotted bass is 5 fish per day.
Largemouth & smallmouth Minimum Length:14 inches
If it's legal ain't no way in hell it's catch and release, it's CATCH & GREASE, except ROUGH (TRASH) Fish
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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character
[Re: voodew]
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03/02/17 03:22 PM
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I understand what the original poster is saying - there are some on here that are good at catching white bass - they bring their friends and fill a 140 qt cooler - twice a weekend - every weekend. It is a little over kill if you ask me. And just FYI we have boated over 3200 fish this year - bet we haven't kept over 20 hybrids and 150 whites total (All of these fish were main lake fish in different phases of spawning) Just because you can legally keep them doesn't mean you always should - yes it is your legal right to keep 25 per day, but if your that good at catching white bass why not just keep what you need? As a 12 year old, I asked Mr. Tim, why we had to keep so many fish, because surely the lake would run out of crappie by next year, if everyone did that...Mr. Tim (75 at the time) stated..."Boy, I been catching all the crappie I could since I was your age and bringing all my friends to help, and we got more crappie today than we ever had...you just can't catch them all, no matter how hard you try" ....just about that time I caught a sandie and he told me to put him on a stringer and catch as many as you can...them thing breed like mice and they hurt the crappie population, he said...now sir, that conversation happened 46 years ago...so when you see fit, you are more than welcome to apologize to the forum members for your "out of touch with reality rant"...basically, we ain't buying what you are selling...and voodew, I am addressing the original poster...I just liked your comment and sought to expand on it!
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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character
[Re: BMART]
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03/02/17 03:23 PM
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TroyKing
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I am going to try and catch some large mouth for a change, hopefully catch five legal ones for the grease Bass
The combined limit for any combination of largemouth, smallmouth, Guadalupe and spotted bass is 5 fish per day.
Largemouth & smallmouth Minimum Length:14 inches large mouth are my favorite fish to eat...I like to filet at least a 6lb bass and leave the skin and scales on...put it on the smoker for a while then put onions and tomato slices on it and cover with foil....man you talk about lairipin.
The driving force and secret desire of every bass fisherman, is to one day be a crappie fisherman............Could it be that the good Lord just smilies and looks the other way when a fisherman tells a lie?
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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character
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03/02/17 03:28 PM
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crapicat
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I am going to try and catch some large mouth for a change, hopefully catch five legal ones for the grease Bass
The combined limit for any combination of largemouth, smallmouth, Guadalupe and spotted bass is 5 fish per day.
Largemouth & smallmouth Minimum Length:14 inches large mouth are my favorite fish to eat...I like to filet at least a 6lb bass and leave the skin and scales on...put it on the smoker for a while then put onions and tomato slices on it and cover with foil....man you talk about lairipin. Not my favorite to eat, but I keep every legal one I catch...and yes, they are very good on the half-shell!
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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character
[Re: bluesea112]
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03/02/17 06:22 PM
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I used to think that if the state backed off a little bit on fishing regulations that the fisherman would have the common sense to self regulate and not over fish the waters of the state. After reading some posts in this forum I realized that good character and common sense is in short supply. I read post after post of guys keeping a 25 fish limit of spawning white bass. Many of them had a partner, so the boat total was 50 fish that could have spawned and given us a more plentiful resource in the future. I have to wonder if guys who do that are just stupid or greedy. It reminds me of the photos I have seen of guys back in the 40's who would kill hundreds of ducks in a day and hang them in rows around their barn for a photo. Our duck population is still recovering from the lack of good sense from those idiots decades ago.
Keeping 25 spawning fish does not make you a man or make you look cool. Catching and keeping a limit of spawning fish does not mean you are a good fisherman or that you have some unique talent. Anybody can catch 25 spawning fish, so your boasting makes you look immature and inexperienced. I now realize that we have regulations because of a few bad apples who lack common sense and the good character of a true sportsman.
Think or assume whatever you want. I just spent 3 days on the Sabine River last weekend, and you bet I came home with my two day possession limit of sand bass, plus a few crappie. So that makes me a bad person? Well, let me clue you in to something since you're jumping to all sorts of conclusions about people when you don't know the first thing about any of us. Those 50 fish I brought home will be the only sand bass I keep all year long. Yep, I will C&R all sand bass, striper, and hybrid I catch until the spawn next year. Sure, I will keep a fair amount of blue cats in the next couple of months as well, but that will be enough to get my family and I through the year for fish. And I'll C&R any catfish that lands in my boat weighing over 10lbs. So, what does your judgemental [censored] have to say about that? Yes, your post offends me completely, because you chose a public forum to air out your ignorance and in doing so insulted a large number of people you know nothing about.
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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character
[Re: bluesea112]
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03/02/17 06:26 PM
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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character
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03/02/17 06:36 PM
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Us Catholics will need a lot of fish to eat right now. Great how the spring spawn coincides with lent..... 
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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character
[Re: bluesea112]
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03/02/17 07:16 PM
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psycho0819
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If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space!
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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character
[Re: bluesea112]
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03/02/17 07:30 PM
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Thanks bluesea. Only way to get peoples to post their catches. Keep them pictures coming. Ha!
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Re: Fishing Regulations versus Good Character
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03/02/17 08:33 PM
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TroyKing
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I don't need to say anything...the guilt and shame on your faces is obvious...glad yall learned your limits, I mean lesson.
The driving force and secret desire of every bass fisherman, is to one day be a crappie fisherman............Could it be that the good Lord just smilies and looks the other way when a fisherman tells a lie?
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