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Whites spawning on main lake?
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02/09/17 10:19 PM
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Dadsthatlove2fish
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Are you finding more and more that whites have adapted and started to spawn on shallow humps and shallow sandy bottom banks along the main lake as opposed to going up the river system on that lake. I talked to several people that said that since lakes fluctuate so much over the years through droughts that whites have adapted to spawn on main lake flats, shallow sandy banks, and humps. Anyone noticing anything like this?
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Re: Whites spawning on main lake?
[Re: Dadsthatlove2fish]
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02/09/17 10:25 PM
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KidKrappie
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I feel that whites would rather spawn in the creek if the opportunity presents itself (better and more consistent current). Of course on years with low water the fish have to adapt to spawning on the mainlake. Even with normal water levels some fish spawn in both places with a good amount going up the creeks.
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Re: Whites spawning on main lake?
[Re: Dadsthatlove2fish]
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02/10/17 12:39 AM
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Re: Whites spawning on main lake?
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02/10/17 01:08 AM
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fmclee
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Sure have caught a bunch lately in the main lake .......
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Re: Whites spawning on main lake?
[Re: Dadsthatlove2fish]
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02/10/17 01:58 AM
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jbobo
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So have I. It isn't time yet for the females to go north.
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Re: Whites spawning on main lake?
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02/10/17 03:07 AM
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ML56
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On Somerville, I think a smaller percentage spawn in the main body of lake, the main lake spawn is for the most part unsuccessful(I think).The reason I believe this is, during the drought years a few years back, we had 4 out of 5 years that the lake was too low for the fish to get into the creeks to spawn. During those years it was nearly impossible to catch an undersized whitebass. If the spawns in the lake are successful we should have had a representative class of small fish for each year. The recent 2 years of flooding has produced an abundance of small fish representing each year class. The flooding has ruined many of our parks and they are still closed, as much as I dislike this, it is good for the fish as it has given them a chance to recover a bit. I'm still seeing lots of fish in main lake still, but the boys running the creeks are picking up a few also, so mixed bag, and mother nature will fix this herself.
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Re: Whites spawning on main lake?
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02/10/17 03:33 AM
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ML56 is spot on at Lake Somerville.. when the lake is up and the Yegua is running full at the right time of the year we have good reproduction and not so good production on dry years. But certain areas of the lake hold spawning whitebass every spring year after year regardless of flow into the lake from the Yegua. I remember reading somewhere that male whitebass will attempt to spawn in their first year of life but females take two full years to reach maturity. That would explain why the females are so much bigger.. and they are a relatively short lived fish at about 4 years which explains why several drought years in a row really knocks the population down.
Like most everything on the planet fish need to reproduce and whitebass will attempt to do so in whatever conditions are presented to them. That being said, whitebass will spawn where there is moving water and the success rate goes up or down with the volume and movement of the water.
One thing is for sure.. the whitebass don't stay in the creek after the spawn is done unless they get trapped by fast falling lake levels..
My TPWD Inland Fisheries friend tells me that surveys they do (gill net and creel) show that many whitebass never leave the lake but I do not know if anyone has done a study to determine the reproductive success rate of whitebass in creek-river verses open lakes.
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Re: Whites spawning on main lake?
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02/10/17 08:18 PM
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You hit it right on the head when you mentioned the droughts. The average life span of a white bass is only 5 to 7 years, and the drought lasted that long in some places. so what you have is almost an entire generation of these fish who never ran up river, and spawned in the lake. They will go back to spawning in the creeks and rivers but it may take a while for some places to really get back to their glory days. Medina lake is a prime example. The population is down, and those fish have never been up river. It may be several years before a good run is made. I hope not. Just my humble opinion based on observation. 
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Re: Whites spawning on main lake?
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02/11/17 12:28 AM
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Back in the late 60s, I was talking with one of the old timers who fished 2-3 times a week about wanting to hit the river for some whites. He said you don't need to go up the river to catch whites spawning, there's plenty of them that spawn in the lake on the sandy points. I thought, he has no idea what he's talking about. A few years later I witnessed exactly what he was talking about. I was seeing whites surface on a point but they weren't chasing shad. There would be a large female surface like a porpoise with 2-3 males touching the female. She was laying eggs and the males were squirting milt. Saw this go on for an hour one morning in early March. The lake wasn't low that year, no drought. It happens every year.
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Re: Whites spawning on main lake?
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02/11/17 01:35 PM
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Years ago I went to the park on the lake side of the dam at Lavon. It was open then and you could fish from the bank. I had 3 dozen minnows and 3 poles. I walked out on a point, that had the wind blowing in on it, baited up and as soon as they hit the water I was catching Sandies. Couldn't fish but with one pole. Within an hour I had a limit. I came back the next two days and did the same. Filled my freezer. Went back there a few years later on a windy spring day and saw a chain link fence blocking to way. I figured those fish didn't want to swim all the way to a creek so they chose a nice windy point by the dam. Since then I've fished other lakes from a boat on windy points and done real good.
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Re: Whites spawning on main lake?
[Re: Dadsthatlove2fish]
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02/11/17 04:59 PM
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I've been interested in this topic for a while. I know many just spawn in the lake, but I've never targeted them. I've heard sandy points, shallow sandy/gravel coves, rip rap, and who knows what else. I would like to try the lake spawn instead of the creeks when it's too muddy or crowded.
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Re: Whites spawning on main lake?
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02/12/17 03:19 AM
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Sandies are in the lavon creeks right now.. don't think they are quite in shallow main lake right now? I never fish mainlake this time of year I hit the creeks hard! Lavon seems to be awesome from bank on points around late June early July... post spawn is off the charts for me on main lake points
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Re: Whites spawning on main lake?
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02/12/17 02:08 PM
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How is Lake Lavon looking?
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Re: Whites spawning on main lake?
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02/12/17 03:43 PM
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ML56 is spot on at Lake Somerville.. when the lake is up and the Yegua is running full at the right time of the year we have good reproduction and not so good production on dry years. But certain areas of the lake hold spawning whitebass every spring year after year regardless of flow into the lake from the Yegua. I remember reading somewhere that male whitebass will attempt to spawn in their first year of life but females take two full years to reach maturity. That would explain why the females are so much bigger.. and they are a relatively short lived fish at about 4 years which explains why several drought years in a row really knocks the population down.
Like most everything on the planet fish need to reproduce and whitebass will attempt to do so in whatever conditions are presented to them. That being said, whitebass will spawn where there is moving water and the success rate goes up or down with the volume and movement of the water.
One thing is for sure.. the whitebass don't stay in the creek after the spawn is done unless they get trapped by fast falling lake levels..
My TPWD Inland Fisheries friend tells me that surveys they do (gill net and creel) show that many whitebass never leave the lake but I do not know if anyone has done a study to determine the reproductive success rate of whitebass in creek-river verses open lakes. I've walked the creeks and caught my share of whites in Somerville/Yegua. Due to the crowds, I've learned over these years that there are in fact many fish that remain in the lake to spawn/during the spawn. I've targeted them every year and have done real well. Amazingly enough, its the same time every year when fishing is the best, and always good numbers are to be had. Best part, not many folks in boats during this time in the main lake. That said, it's still not like hoisting them outta a hole in the creek! Good Luck and Stay Safe!!
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Re: Whites spawning on main lake?
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02/13/17 04:01 PM
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I think it depends on the lake and water flow. Lakes like PK and Texoma that keep water flow pretty much year round even in droughts, the fish go up the creeks or river. Lakes like EM and BB I think they spawn on points because when the wind blows it actually creates current. Just what I have seen. 
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