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Re: Has tournaments hurt squaw creek?
[Re: Chris Borden]
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12/29/16 03:35 AM
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Personally I think there was some kinda fish kill this summer when water temps were 100+ and no one was fishing it to know but one thing for sure is the good fish are far fewer this year.
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Re: Has tournaments hurt squaw creek?
[Re: Bobby Milam]
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12/29/16 09:33 AM
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If it were a private lake the game wardens would not patrol it would they? It is a private lake, I asked the person working there last trip. She said since the TPWD stocked it they regulate it. I would think if one had the time/money to spend on a lawyer and fight a ticket then it would go away. TWPD has it listed as a public lake subject to statewide regulations with Luminant Power being the Reservoir Controlling Authority. TPWD is incorrect
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Re: Has tournaments hurt squaw creek?
[Re: Douglas J]
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12/29/16 09:34 AM
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Climer told me it's easy pickings out west. I would like to know who the guy at the ramp is that told him he was welcome to come donate to the locals and he did not stand a chance at Squaw, when he said he was fishing one of the jackpots over there a month or so ago. I think they won 3 or 4 in a row of that "local's" tournaments. Let me tell you if you are reading this, your arrogance towards him and Tony made my ole buddy chuckle Now that is funny
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Re: Has tournaments hurt squaw creek?
[Re: Slade]
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12/29/16 03:09 PM
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In all honesty, wouldn't every lake be better off without tournaments? No, it would be some other reason that fishing was not as good as everyone expected. And we should ban whatever that is too? Fish change, anglers have to adapt. I do feel pressure affects fish, but it does not stop them from feeding. Remember bass will overpopulate a body of water if left unchecked. So some management, including harvesting is needed.
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Re: Has tournaments hurt squaw creek?
[Re: Chris Borden]
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12/29/16 03:36 PM
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Would an 18 - 22 inch slot fix the problem, along with better fish handling? If there even is an issue.
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Re: Has tournaments hurt squaw creek?
[Re: Chris Borden]
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12/29/16 04:17 PM
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why would anyone think that the amount of tournaments on a small body like this would not hurt the average size of the fish in a fishery when it first open it took 24 to 25 lbs to get noticed just the idea of over 20 lbs of fish riding around in a livewell most of the day an probly half of the folks don't know how to fizz properly with the amount of people fishing it now even if they catch an release immediately your going to lose a lot of fish. probly not a popular view but hard to argue.
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Re: Has tournaments hurt squaw creek?
[Re: Chris Borden]
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12/29/16 05:08 PM
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Fish get smarter. Most anglers don't adapt. It is less about the fish not being there and more about the angler not being as good as he or she thinks they are. Pressure absolutely affects those fish. 100 boats on a 3000 acre lake makes a lot of disturbance and noise. Fish sense that stuff. To me, Squaw hasn't been worth the drive this year in my opinion. Those fish are still there. Some people are catching them. Those are the guys that are way better at this sport than I am. As long as the 2 pound and under class fish is easy to catch in the winter time, Squaw will continued to get hammered.
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Re: Has tournaments hurt squaw creek?
[Re: Chris Borden]
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12/29/16 08:22 PM
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Its a 3000 acre pond that has a ridiculous amount of tournaments and boats Monday, Thursday Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The lake gets two days of rest. I was absolutely cracking up when we were there last Thursday and there was people weigh in in fish at the dock.... a Thursday tournament? Still a great place to catch 20 plush fish a day and we enjoyed our trip. I would say that those fish def are feeling the pressure. Its just like when there is a big bass tournament on lake fork and only 9.5- 10 pounds wins out of 3000 anglers. Its obvious the bigger fish are there they just don't want to eat because of the pressure.
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Re: Has tournaments hurt squaw creek?
[Re: Barrett]
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I noticed in the "tournament" section that there are a lot of "open" tournaments at squaw. are these 100% payback, or are certain people/groups making money from these?
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Re: Has tournaments hurt squaw creek?
[Re: tin man 55]
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12/29/16 08:54 PM
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I noticed in the "tournament" section that there are a lot of "open" tournaments at squaw. are these 100% payback, or are certain people/groups making money from these? Depends on who puts them on, individuals, clubs and so on.
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Re: Has tournaments hurt squaw creek?
[Re: tin man 55]
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I am just guessing but even without 100% payback it is not likely that the organizers are even breaking even considering their time investment, probably do it for their love of the sport and friendly competition.
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Re: Has tournaments hurt squaw creek?
[Re: Chris Borden]
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12/31/16 07:04 PM
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So has the internet killed another good fishery?
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Re: Has tournaments hurt squaw creek?
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12/31/16 07:54 PM
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Pressure/tournaments killed Squaw? Absolutely not. Negative effect? Absolutely!
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Re: Has tournaments hurt squaw creek?
[Re: Chris Borden]
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12/31/16 10:30 PM
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The fishery is alive and well. We fished three days straight on Dec 8-9-10 and never had less than a 30 fish day with the other days around 40. Never had anything bigger than 5lbs but what do you expect? An 8lber every time you go to Squaw? Pressure has affected the bigger fish, period. Some of the big ones have died from angler inexperience, but there's a lot more biggens swimming out there that are smarter than most of the fishermen, or at least getting that way. Instead of fishing 40 ft, go to 60 ft and learn how to fizz haha.
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Re: Has tournaments hurt squaw creek?
[Re: Chris Borden]
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01/01/17 01:37 AM
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Watched the Squaw Honey Hole episode today. Didn't look like they struggled. Bill and Dax caught a carp load of fish!! 
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