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Re: Truck with best combination of price, mpg, and towing capacity [Re: patriot07] #11976148 12/10/16 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted By: patriot07


All that said, I just don't think I could ever lay my head on the pillow at night with a Ford


9 fords. One lemon. 5 FCAs, and while I think they are improved in recent years, every one has been a pos.

Re: Truck with best combination of price, mpg, and towing capacity [Re: patriot07] #11977620 12/11/16 02:09 PM
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Damn I really like my eco diesel. Reading this is a bummer. I did want to get the megacab 2500 but felt it was out of my needs- i read some stuff from the VW deal where it might be doable? We will see what happens. I just did an oil change at dealer (free) and they took forever updating stuff. I will keep an eye out on my mpg.

Re: Truck with best combination of price, mpg, and towing capacity [Re: patriot07] #11977914 12/11/16 05:16 PM
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They probably can't force you to do anything on the ecodiesel. I don't know.
On the VW they negotiated a deal to allow all owners to make choices. I believe right now (dated info) you can keep the car and get 5k just because. You can sell them the car back at a price it was worth in May 2014 or you can have VW do the fix to make it 85 percent compliable with EPA standards.
The only thing I have not heard is if the VW fix has worked and is a accepted in the agreement. If you go that way they will probably fix it, give you 5 grand plus a small amount that pays for the loss of power, mpg or both.

I'd do the 2.7 ecoboost today if it was my choice and only had to pull around 8k occasionally. Depending on how much weight and how often would influence me between the little or larger booster. I am cheap.

Re: Truck with best combination of price, mpg, and towing capacity [Re: patriot07] #11979473 12/12/16 01:43 PM
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I'm far from an expert or even well versed on the subject, but from what I have heard with the vw's you had to get them fixed, you couldn't just keep it how it was. Have some family members who stuck it out as long as they could but had to have theirs changed so they ended up selling it. As they were from the factory they were in violation of the EPA, they aren't going to let you keep that.

Best case scenario is there is nothing wrong with the ecoD.

IF there is something similar going on with the ecodiesel and it will be required to be reprogrammed and will loose economy and power I will probably be getting rid of mine. I loved the fuel economy and that is why I bought it, but it came at a price of performance. The ecodiesel is down right slow as it sits. If it looses performance it will be too big of a dog for even me to drive, I believe it would be an impediment to other drivers.

Re: Truck with best combination of price, mpg, and towing capacity [Re: redchevy] #11979483 12/12/16 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: redchevy
I'm far from an expert or even well versed on the subject, but from what I have heard with the vw's you had to get them fixed, you couldn't just keep it how it was. Have some family members who stuck it out as long as they could but had to have theirs changed so they ended up selling it. As they were from the factory they were in violation of the EPA, they aren't going to let you keep that.

Best case scenario is there is nothing wrong with the ecoD.

IF there is something similar going on with the ecodiesel and it will be required to be reprogrammed and will loose economy and power I will probably be getting rid of mine. I loved the fuel economy and that is why I bought it, but it came at a price of performance. The ecodiesel is down right slow as it sits. If it looses performance it will be too big of a dog for even me to drive, I believe it would be an impediment to other drivers.
Pretty much where I'm at.

Problem is that if they do have to fix it, the value for selling it will be toast.


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Re: Truck with best combination of price, mpg, and towing capacity [Re: patriot07] #11979545 12/12/16 02:09 PM
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All I have heard about the VW deal is that owners came out smelling like a rose!

Re: Truck with best combination of price, mpg, and towing capacity [Re: redchevy] #11979610 12/12/16 02:36 PM
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All I have heard about the VW deal is that owners came out smelling like a rose!
That's good to know.

I'm not gonna worry about it for now. I love the truck. Only reason this even came up is that my brother and I started talking about it and I told him that I had no idea what I would replace it with. When I started looking at real world alternatives, then I started liking my truck even more since none of the alternatives seem to offer the towing, initial price, and mpg that the ecodiesel does.


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Re: Truck with best combination of price, mpg, and towing capacity [Re: patriot07] #11979732 12/12/16 03:45 PM
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Yep I just want it to all be fake money grab by the lawyer who filed it. Keep my truck and get a gde tune in a few more miles and full delete tune nearer to 100k.

I rolled over 19k on mine this weekend. Still no problems.

Re: Truck with best combination of price, mpg, and towing capacity [Re: patriot07] #11980147 12/12/16 07:25 PM
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IF something happens to the ecodiesel, and IF I can convince my wife... that's a lot of IF's!

I am going to buy a commuter car again and drive it for a while. In the mean time the plan is to buy an early 2000's 3/4 ton gas chevy and swap a 3.9 liter cummins 4bt into it.

Re: Truck with best combination of price, mpg, and towing capacity [Re: redchevy] #11980231 12/12/16 07:59 PM
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The only thing I see going for them is the 100k mile bumper to bumper warranty.


And price. Lot of truck for the money imo. 555lbs/tq seems adequate for most jobs.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/668277773/overview/

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Yep I just want it to all be fake money grab by the lawyer who filed it. Keep my truck and get a gde tune in a few more miles and full delete tune nearer to 100k.

I rolled over 19k on mine this weekend. Still no problems.
I've got 7k on mine. No issues at all. Love it.

As for your plan to get an early 2000s GM 3/4 ton, that's not a bad idea. I'm just tired of owning 3 vehicles. Did it for the last 2 years, and I enjoy only owning 2 now (my ED and my wife's highlander).


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Re: Truck with best combination of price, mpg, and towing capacity [Re: Samsonsworld] #11980287 12/12/16 08:27 PM
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The only thing I see going for them is the 100k mile bumper to bumper warranty.


And price. Lot of truck for the money imo. 555lbs/tq seems adequate for most jobs.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/668277773/overview/


I guess prices on them have come down. Seems like when they first came out they wanted the same money as they wanted for 3/4 ton fords chevy's and rams. Those have in the neighborhood of 1000 ftlb torque more hp way more payload and get the same fuel economy. To me they just don't make sense. Sure it will tow more than my ecodiesel but it wont get any better fuel mileage than the next step up from it and it is far below it in performance.

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I agree. But with the heavy discounts...might be worth a look. It's competitive with other half tons.

Re: Truck with best combination of price, mpg, and towing capacity [Re: patriot07] #11999729 12/23/16 11:02 AM
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Custom ordered a 2011 GMC 1500 Sierra SLT extended cab w/ Max Tow package - 6.2L gas all aluminum engine (403 HP), 6 spd Automatic, 3.73 gears. Paid $34,000.00 for it. Plenty of towing capacity, cool interior (all leather, 6 disc player, wood grain dash, etc.)Purchase price was reasonable, tows the Champion, well, like a Champ, LOL. BUT, the mileage isn't all that great - 17mpg Hwy -no boat, 13.5 City -no boat, and averages 11mpg towing the boat. Hey, 2 outta 3 ain't bad. The power this thing has is a fair trade off for the mileage. Wrap this thing up to about 4,500 rpm's an hang on!!!!

Re: Truck with best combination of price, mpg, and towing capacity [Re: patriot07] #11999895 12/23/16 02:40 PM
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What is the tow rating on it? I've heard that 6.2L engine is a beast.


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