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Re: MLB Changes Hime Field Advantage [Re: Duck_Hunter] #11960125 12/01/16 04:27 PM
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So somehow they've made the ASG mean less than it already does.
More players will get out of playing in it and I don't blame them. If it's just a showcase they may as well just have an awards banquet to honor those chosen. Who wins means nothing.

Re: MLB Changes Hime Field Advantage [Re: patriot07] #11960134 12/01/16 04:33 PM
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I'll say this - nobody will watch the all star game now. I've watched it when the Rangers were in competition for the playoffs because I had an interest in it. Now, ratings are going to go back to a pre-2002 level with nobody but die-hard fans watching. Not a big deal either way, but I think it was a dumb decision. I don't think home field in the world series is that big of a deal anyway. It's not like it's some sort of sacred thing we're deciding via an exhibition game. It's a nearly meaningless location determinant.


I don't think people watched the all star game because it determined something their team had very little chance of being a part of in the first place. I doubt that ratings increased when it was tied to home field and I doubt they will drop because that's been changed.

It's an exhibition and it should be treated as such. It should be a spectacle showcasing the best talent in the league. I don't think where the World Series is played should be affected by something the two teams playing had no control over, unless the series is played a neutral site like the Super Bowl, which I would also disagree with.


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Originally Posted By: Allison1
So somehow they've made the ASG mean less than it already does.
More players will get out of playing in it and I don't blame them. If it's just a showcase they may as well just have an awards banquet to honor those chosen. Who wins means nothing.


It never had any meaning until 2003 yet has long been regarded as the premiere all star game in professional sports.


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Re: MLB Changes Hime Field Advantage [Re: Duck_Hunter] #11960140 12/01/16 04:34 PM
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Ratings did increase after the rule change, or at least that's what I have read.

The two teams in the WS have no control over who they play or who the other team plays either, but that directly impacts their record at the end of the year. I think that's equally as arbitrary, if not more so.

Just my $.02. I don't care enough to get worked up about it. I just don't think the arguments against it are actually valid.


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What is wrong with National League one year and American the next? Just rotate it.

I also think the DH should be used in every game of series. Why give advantage/did-advantage to a team simply because they play in a different league.


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Re: MLB Changes Hime Field Advantage [Re: Duck_Hunter] #11960166 12/01/16 04:45 PM
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Re: MLB Changes Hime Field Advantage [Re: BASSNDOOD] #11960174 12/01/16 04:50 PM
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What is wrong with National League one year and American the next? Just rotate it.

I also think the DH should be used in every game of series. Why give advantage/did-advantage to a team simply because they play in a different league.
Toss the DH entirely, regular season and postseason. I hate watching managers like Ron Wash who don't know anything about baseball trying to figure out what a double switch is. Make all of them learn it and learn to use the strategy of the game to their advantage.


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Re: MLB Changes Hime Field Advantage [Re: patriot07] #11960277 12/01/16 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: patriot07
Ratings did increase after the rule change, or at least that's what I have read.

The two teams in the WS have no control over who they play or who the other team plays either, but that directly impacts their record at the end of the year. I think that's equally as arbitrary, if not more so.

Just my $.02. I don't care enough to get worked up about it. I just don't think the arguments against it are actually valid.


I respect your opinion and I'm not getting worked up. I don't think what you've read about ratings is correct, though. 2003 is when the home field thing was implemented.

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Sports TV Ratings has the chart of the ASGs ratings since 1967 and there was a time when it could garner a 28.5 rating and as much as a 53 share. But since 2002 when it stopped averaging double digits for ratings, the game has steadily fallen to the point where its below a 6.0 rating.


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Ratings did increase after the rule change, or at least that's what I have read.

The two teams in the WS have no control over who they play or who the other team plays either, but that directly impacts their record at the end of the year. I think that's equally as arbitrary, if not more so.

Just my $.02. I don't care enough to get worked up about it. I just don't think the arguments against it are actually valid.


I respect your opinion and I'm not getting worked up. I don't think what you've read about ratings is correct, though. 2003 is when the home field thing was implemented.

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Sports TV Ratings has the chart of the ASG’s ratings since 1967 and there was a time when it could garner a 28.5 rating and as much as a 53 share. But since 2002 when it stopped averaging double digits for ratings, the game has steadily fallen to the point where it’s below a 6.0 rating.


http://awfulannouncing.com/2016/2016-mlb...ecord-lows.html
Yeah I knew you weren't getting worked up. I was just making the point that I don't feel all that strongly about it. I just liked the idea of the game counting for something.

Sounds like whatever I read about ratings was wrong. I'll still probably go from watching it sporadically to not watching it at all. Maybe there aren't many folks like me. It's probably better that way...


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Re: MLB Changes Hime Field Advantage [Re: Duck_Hunter] #11960384 12/01/16 06:42 PM
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Just found out that apparently they're going to give the players on the winning team a bonus?

I love it. I retract all my statements about dis-liking this change. I wanted the game to count for something so that the players actually played. Now it does, and it doesn't impact the WS anymore. Win-win.


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