Curious to see how the 17p runs, holeshot should be better for sure. I don't think the 19p can hold the bow up, we will know more soon! Should get a rooster tail about as high as the top of the motor at WOT trimmed out.....if the bow will stay up. The aluminum 17p will flex more than a SS but it should help point in the right direction.....

On THAT boat with that motor, you really aren't looking for any roostertail at all. Not being mean, but slim chance that aluminum prop is going to do much, you want a prop that is going to hold the water and give you some lift. I really like a four blade stainless on tin boats, they handle better, and run better with a load.

I ran it with the aluminum prop, and the hole shot is was better. About 3-4 seconds. I still have the problem but I still have the problem with the lifting of the nose. The rooster tail didn't really change. And it's not as high as the motor it's pretty small actually. But the handling changed for the better also

now i'm confused, , first you say the bow was pushing down, now it's pushing up???

Sorry I mis typed that. The bow still wants to go too far in the water.

I'm stumped, the 17p seems to be about right and a SS will be better but can't figure out the bow down problem. Is the trim wired backwards? Is the motor still lifting when you are trimming up?

i still think you need to check the tilt/trim and the transom at the lower engine mount area, i would also check for a big concave dent on the bottom of the hull from the middle back to the transom, heck, it could just be low on hydraulic fluid, not letting it tilt up like it should

No sir the trim isn't wired backwards. I can be running wot (well what the boat will let me) and trim up and the motor will trim up all the way to the point it isn't in the water anymore. And it will go all the way down to the stops. The only thing I can think of is maybe a jackplate to raise the motor up on the transom. Or maybe the motor is mounted wrong on the transom. Just not sure how to tell that.

sorry, just went back thru the tread and saw you did check that tilt/trim, reinforced transom and so on, on that reinforced transom, why did it need to be reinforced? is the bottom of the hull straight? other than that, i got nothing unless the bow is weighted down

The boat came with a 60hp motor and my grandfather was having problems so he went and bought a brand new 70hp for it. Since it was a bigger motor even though they weighed the same he reinforced it. I tried uploading pics but it won't let me from my phone. I can't figure it out. He said it has always done it. I guess I will just have to live with it

Like recommended above, check the bottom of the hull for oil-canning at the stern.

Thanks for the help guys