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Re: Calf cramps
[Re: Mudman63]
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06/24/16 06:49 PM
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Appreciate all the information. I think I'll find a sports therapist to discuss my problem and research better/different ways to stretch my legs out and see if that makes a difference. Thanks!
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Re: Calf cramps
[Re: Mudman63]
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06/24/16 06:54 PM
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Re: Calf cramps
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06/25/16 12:51 PM
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Dynamic stretching would be a better choice...Could be a fascia or tendon issue. Have you ever injured your feet, ankles or knees? Footwear could also be playing a role in your calves cramping. Is the cramping in the large muscle on the back of the calf? Is it lower? Is it higher? Side? Several muscles make up the calf...too hard to tell you why you having the issues. Are you running on your toes and not landing on your entire foot? You may need to focus on firing other muscles within the calf while you're running....A massage therapist that works primarily with athletes and practices sports massage, a Licensed Athletic Trainer, or a really good personal trainer with a Kinesiology degree, not just the certification, would all be good sources to consult.
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Re: Calf cramps
[Re: Bass_Bustin_Texan]
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06/25/16 02:02 PM
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Take magnesium too.....if you workout that is an important thing for the joints and muscles. agree, magnesium citrate helped me a lot
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Re: Calf cramps
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06/25/16 02:15 PM
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Dynamic stretching would be a better choice...Could be a fascia or tendon issue. Have you ever injured your feet, ankles or knees? Footwear could also be playing a role in your calves cramping. Is the cramping in the large muscle on the back of the calf? Is it lower? Is it higher? Side? Several muscles make up the calf...too hard to tell you why you having the issues. Are you running on your toes and not landing on your entire foot? You may need to focus on firing other muscles within the calf while you're running....A massage therapist that works primarily with athletes and practices sports massage, a Licensed Athletic Trainer, or a really good personal trainer with a Kinesiology degree, not just the certification, would all be good sources to consult. I do have some fascia on my right side, which is the worst side. No injuries. The entire right calf from my ankle to knee gets hard as a rock. Can't even press into the muscle it is so hard. The left calf cramps to 80% of the right calf, though that is a guesstimate. I have been using a degreed, licensed personal trainer and talked to many runners, including one Professional long distance runner and none of them have helped the cramping issue. The long distance guy did help me with some stride issues and got me into the right shoe. I plan to set up an appointment with a licensed therapist to have it checked out.
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Re: Calf cramps
[Re: Mudman63]
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06/25/16 02:44 PM
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Interesting...I wonder if there has been some damage to either a tendon, or to a nerve that's causing the muscle to essentially misfire and go in to a spasm...you say the entire calf, I'm going to assume you mean the gastrocnemius (largest muscle on the lower leg...basically that big muscle most refer to as a calf)...it's the coolest muscle in the body to say and spell.  It's also one of the foundation muscles, so rather important...I had a client with calf spasms when they ran, but it was an ankle issue that I corrected in a couple of sessions, but theirs was not as severe as yours, and it was not bilateral. That's the part that I find most interesting. Please keep us informed as to what they determine, and if it gets corrected. The sciatic nerve is essentially a rope of nerves running up both legs into the glutes and then into the spine. I wonder if you have damaged something higher up...So many possibilities. The human body is a fascinating, and at times disgusting, thing... 
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Re: Calf cramps
[Re: Mudman63]
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06/25/16 03:58 PM
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Based on your weight and existing problems, I would forgo running. The number one question that is seldom asked is "what is your goal?". Is it simply weight loss, overall strength, muscle building/body building/physique, sprinter, marathon/endurance sports, etc.?
You have two goals - weight loss and increased cardio. I would assume that you want to preserve your existing muscle and strength. In my opinion, cardio can be obtained quicker than muscle mass, overall strength, and healthy weight loss. Therefore, I would focus on weight loss first, which can be attained simply by establishing a healthy caloric deficit. Your weight training will provide some cardio, accelerate the weight loss, and ensure that muscle loss is kept to a minimum while operating with a caloric deficit. You can still do some type of cardio - many ideas have already been suggested. However, I would keep it at a minimum. It seems that you have built some strength and muscle. If you are eating less and overdoing your cardio, there is a good chance you will lose some of your hard earned muscle.
You can go cardio crazy, slash your caloric intake and easily lose 5 pounds a week, but that would not be healthy.
I know this is a big tangent from seeking help for a calf cramp, but hopefully it is somewhat helpful.
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Re: Calf cramps
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06/25/16 08:24 PM
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Interesting...I wonder if there has been some damage to either a tendon, or to a nerve that's causing the muscle to essentially misfire and go in to a spasm...you say the entire calf, I'm going to assume you mean the gastrocnemius (largest muscle on the lower leg...basically that big muscle most refer to as a calf)...it's the coolest muscle in the body to say and spell.  It's also one of the foundation muscles, so rather important...I had a client with calf spasms when they ran, but it was an ankle issue that I corrected in a couple of sessions, but theirs was not as severe as yours, and it was not bilateral. That's the part that I find most interesting. Please keep us informed as to what they determine, and if it gets corrected. The sciatic nerve is essentially a rope of nerves running up both legs into the glutes and then into the spine. I wonder if you have damaged something higher up...So many possibilities. The human body is a fascinating, and at times disgusting, thing... Very interesting read. Yes, the entire gastrocnemius. When I sit too much at one time or over a short period of time my hips get very tight. I stretch the hips extensively to loosen them up and don't have any problems. I wonder if the calf cramp is a symptom of something else going on with a nerve? I think I need to go see a professional therapist.
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Re: Calf cramps
[Re: LSM]
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06/25/16 08:29 PM
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Based on your weight and existing problems, I would forgo running. The number one question that is seldom asked is "what is your goal?". Is it simply weight loss, overall strength, muscle building/body building/physique, sprinter, marathon/endurance sports, etc.?
You have two goals - weight loss and increased cardio. I would assume that you want to preserve your existing muscle and strength. In my opinion, cardio can be obtained quicker than muscle mass, overall strength, and healthy weight loss. Therefore, I would focus on weight loss first, which can be attained simply by establishing a healthy caloric deficit. Your weight training will provide some cardio, accelerate the weight loss, and ensure that muscle loss is kept to a minimum while operating with a caloric deficit. You can still do some type of cardio - many ideas have already been suggested. However, I would keep it at a minimum. It seems that you have built some strength and muscle. If you are eating less and overdoing your cardio, there is a good chance you will lose some of your hard earned muscle.
You can go cardio crazy, slash your caloric intake and easily lose 5 pounds a week, but that would not be healthy.
I know this is a big tangent from seeking help for a calf cramp, but hopefully it is somewhat helpful. Another interesting read. I'm no fitness expert, so I always fall back on what I learned in high school athletics. Stretching, weightlifting and cardio. So, fast forward to today, I need to lose weight and improve my cardio, so to me that means run! You make good points, maybe I shouldn't try to run but should try the other options available to me know, that weren't available in my early formative days. Thanks.
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Re: Calf cramps
[Re: Mudman63]
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06/27/16 02:47 PM
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More you tell about it, it does sound like another issue. Keep us updated to what you find out through the professionals. LSS, does have a point about the sciatic nerve. Makes me think that when you say you hurt sitting down at work. I am an office chair salesman, you might make sure you have an adjustable chair...not one of those loop arm cheap options from Target or Office Depot. That is if you are sitting 8 hours a day....I always say God did not intend for us to sit in an office chair when he designed out body many many moons ago. Many of my customer are going to Sit/ Stand desk.
You can avoid having ulcers by adapting to the situation: If you fall in the mud puddle, check your pockets for fish. ~Unknown
Open your eyes & look within, are you satisfied with the life youre living.
No matter how good or bad you have it, wake up each day thankful for your life. Someone somewhere else is desperately fighting for theirs.
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