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Re: Choke Canyon and Ivie Resevoir [Re: Razorback] #11638187 05/31/16 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: Razorback
I have heard that they release water out of Choke to flood the estuaries toward the coast. The fact that it hasn't risen to speak of despite the last year and a half of rain is hard to explain otherwise.


I know that they release water to keep Lake Corpus Christi up. Corpus Christi is only 4 feet low, so I think they could stop letting water out of Choke for a while. But what do I know... I truly believe that the oil fracking around Choke is a bigger problem than most people realize.


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Re: Choke Canyon and Ivie Resevoir [Re: jbguide] #11638197 05/31/16 09:33 PM
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If the link works this is a pretty good place to track lake levels, just click on the lake you want.
http://www.lakelevels.info/?StateID=TX

Re: Choke Canyon and Ivie Resevoir [Re: jbguide] #11638353 05/31/16 10:36 PM
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so many lakes over full pool......and Ivie just can't catch a break. Really hoping for a small miracle and Ivie catches some rain.


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Re: Choke Canyon and Ivie Resevoir [Re: jbguide] #11639318 06/01/16 11:17 AM
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Lots of factors keeping Choke down. The city of Corpus Christi owns the water.
Lake CC is low right now and has been low for quite a while despite having rain to fill it up.
I heard one of the gates is broken on the Lake CC dam so they can't fill it.
So take your pick of conspiracy theories:
Fracking
Mismanagement
Estuaries
A thirsty city
Bottom line is that this looks like the new "normal" for Choke. Might as well figure out the lake as it is.

As far as Ivie, it's just a matter of rain upstream. I remember when they filled it back in the early 90's (I lived in Abilene at the time). They expected it to take months or years to fill. A few long storm periods with record rain and flooding and it filled in weeks. Lakes up stream from Ivie are all empty. The water table is low. When the other two fill then Ivie will fill.

Keep up hope for Ivie. Medina is now full. Over full. Despite periods of heavy rains over the last couple of years it would not fill. The water table was too low and the water coming would soak into the surrounding limestone. Now that the watershed is soaked and the water table very high, Medina filled and will hold water.


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Re: Choke Canyon and Ivie Resevoir [Re: jbguide] #11639372 06/01/16 11:55 AM
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Fracing? Here we go

Have you seen the price of oil lately? We have lost over 75% of the rigs in south texas over the last two years, which means all the Frac jobs we had down here have been reduced by that if not more. And the lake hasn't magically filled up since we came to a crawl in the oil field down here. Fracing had zero to do with the lake not filling up.


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Re: Choke Canyon and Ivie Resevoir [Re: jbguide] #11640431 06/01/16 07:14 PM
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Lake Corpus Christi is not low. Yes it is not at full pool but 3.90 feet low is not that bad in my books. All in all the Frio just hasn't got the rain on it like the other rivers.

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Re: Choke Canyon and Ivie Resevoir [Re: jbguide] #11640755 06/01/16 09:12 PM
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Lake Corpus Christi went dry in the very early 80's, plum down to the river channel. It took a few years and it filled back up. City of CC has to make sure they shrimp have plenty of fresh water in the back bay. I doubt it will ever stay full for any length of time. It was a dang good lake to fish mid to late 80's

It will take a tropical storm to fill up choke, unless the right rain at the very right spot, but thats not to often of either.


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Re: Choke Canyon and Ivie Resevoir [Re: jbguide] #11641130 06/01/16 11:47 PM
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I blame Fracing too. Buncha jerkfaces.

Re: Choke Canyon and Ivie Resevoir [Re: jbguide] #11641760 06/02/16 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: jbguide
Lake Corpus Christi is not low. Yes it is not at full pool but 3.90 feet low is not that bad in my books. All in all the Frio just hasn't got the rain on it like the other rivers.

No, it's not dire by any means but it's a matter of perspective. It's at 73.8% full. The lake is only 60ft deep. Every foot is significant. At full pool the lake is about 18,000 surface acres. Right now its about 16,000 surface acres. So every foot is about 16,000 to 18,000 acre/feet of water. From a fishing perspective 3-4 feet is not bad but from a conservation pool perspective it is more significant.

For comparison Medina is about 6,000 surface acres so every foot towards the rise to full pool is only about 6,000 acre/feet of water. Medina is also about 150ft deep. Both lakes hold about 250,000 acre/feet of water at full pool.

It takes a lot of water to keep Lake CC at a particular level due to its surface acreage. Choke only has about 13,000 surface acres now so a foot drop in CC cannot be made up for by releasing a foot from Choke.

Perhaps the only way to get Choke full is a tropical event to fill both of them up.


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Re: Choke Canyon and Ivie Resevoir [Re: jbguide] #11641794 06/02/16 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted By: jbguide
It takes 15 plus inch of rain around Concan and Leaky area to do any real good. I did see it come up about 6 to 7 foot one time from water that came down Possum Creek. I'm guessing it will come up 3 feet from this water that is in the Frio this time.
Leaky, Concan, Uvalde is where you need to catch the watershed for Choke. Your Correct!

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Huge amount of rain headed straight to Ivie tonight....if she doesn't come up tonight something is stealing it!


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Originally Posted By: txmasterpo
Huge amount of rain headed straight to Ivie tonight....if she doesn't come up tonight something is stealing it!


Yeah the way that system is just kinda stalled over the Ivie watershed right now looks promising

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