texasfishingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
Faith Nunez, KatKiller, dbwarpig, ZD Fishing, fish_15
119593 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
TexDawg 124,465
hopalong 121,182
Bigbob_FTW 104,089
Bob Davis 95,535
John175☮ 86,126
Pilothawk 83,917
Mark Perry 74,866
Derek 🐝 68,490
JDavis7873 67,416
Forum Statistics
Forums59
Topics1,056,733
Posts14,273,528
Members144,593
Most Online39,925
Dec 30th, 2023
Print Thread
1000 gallons of ethanol spill into Lewisville. #1155842 02/13/07 01:34 PM
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,218
TX Grizzly Offline OP
Extreme Angler
OP Offline
Extreme Angler
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,218
did anyone else catch this story yesterday? I wonder if this is enough to do any harm?


Bill
Re: 1000 gallons of ethanol spill into Lewisville. [Re: TX Grizzly] #1155928 02/13/07 02:22 PM
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 519
K
Kevin Fitz Offline
Pro Angler
Offline
Pro Angler
K
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 519
I heard the tank did not rupture and they pumped it from the wrecked truck to a new tanker. This AM on Fox 4...


Grip and Rip!!! Fitz...


[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]


Re: 1000 gallons of ethanol spill into Lewisville. [Re: Kevin Fitz] #1155972 02/13/07 02:52 PM
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 526
B
BigPoppa Offline
Pro Angler
Offline
Pro Angler
B
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 526
I just watched a report on wfaa's web site from their noon newscast yesterday and they said that the wreck happened on 35 at main street (south of the lake) and that the ethanol was still in the truck and was going to be pumped out into another truck.

IMO, it seems unlikely that any Ethanol will get into the lake

Last edited by BigPoppa; 02/13/07 02:54 PM.
Re: 1000 gallons of ethanol spill into Lewisville. [Re: BigPoppa] #1155997 02/13/07 03:03 PM
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,218
TX Grizzly Offline OP
Extreme Angler
OP Offline
Extreme Angler
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,218
ok thanks, i wonder what happened, i saw a report yesterday afternoon talking to the fire chief on site and he stated that about a 1000gal. got out before they were able to stop it and that i ran into a creek that feed lewisville. who knows...


Bill
Re: 1000 gallons of ethanol spill into Lewisville. [Re: TX Grizzly] #1156019 02/13/07 03:19 PM
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 55,496
SkeeterRonnie Offline
Super Freak
Offline
Super Freak
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 55,496
there was a man on the news that was at the church when it happened= he stated the fuel was pouring out on the ground in massive amounts.. so bad the fumes could be smelled where he was at(across the street). The news did not say anything about the fuel getting to the water, and the big yellow sponges were out and there was not any water's edge in the picture.

Re: 1000 gallons of ethanol spill into Lewisville. [Re: SkeeterRonnie] #1156319 02/13/07 06:24 PM
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 672
Drifter Offline
Pro Angler
Offline
Pro Angler
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 672
I re-read the stories on the accident yesterday and could not find a reference to the run-off from the spill going to the lake. Based on where the accident was the natural drainage would have been to the Trinity below the dam.

Re: 1000 gallons of ethanol spill into Lewisville. [Re: Drifter] #1156719 02/13/07 10:58 PM
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 12,182
M
Mike Keenan Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
M
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 12,182
not a drop into the lake...they were at I-35 south at fox ave.


R.I.P. Mike "pappy" "broken rod" Green born 07-16-62 on to better fishing 06-10-08.
www.basscat.com

Re: 1000 gallons of ethanol spill into Lewisville. [Re: Mike Keenan] #1156793 02/13/07 11:50 PM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,512
B
Bottom_Bouncer Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
B
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,512
Since ethanol is the intoxicating ingredient in beer and whiskey, there might be some really intoxicated fish in the lake right now.

Even if it made it to into the lake I would think it would be of minimal concern because it is not a human carcinogen and should dilute quickly to a safe level.




BnM Poles- Quality Rods For Over 60 Years
Lake Fork Trophy Lures - providing innovative, quality (pro-tested and proven) fishing lures made in the U.S.A.
Bee Ready- Rod Holders for a Lifetime
Re: 1000 gallons of ethanol spill into Lewisville. [Re: Bottom_Bouncer] #1157064 02/14/07 02:03 AM
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 242
G
gregorkhan Offline
Outdoorsman
Offline
Outdoorsman
G
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 242
Even if 10,000 gallons of ethanol were dumped into the lake, there would be no long-term effects and only the specific area where the contaminant was released would have any acute effects. The ethanol is infinitely soluble in water and would gradually disperse only harming fish in the direct area.

Rivers are a different story since if you dump a large quantity of toxic material into a river, it will flow downstream roughly in a concentrated plug killing a lot of fish and other stuff. It can take a river a long time to recover from that type of fish kill since the predators, prey, forage, and microbes all take a serious hit at the same time over a large area.




G Hupf
McKinney, TX
Re: 1000 gallons of ethanol spill into Lewisville. [Re: gregorkhan] #1157100 02/14/07 02:21 AM
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 44,421
butch sanders Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 44,421
according to the folks in the OT section, man cannot harm his enviroment.

Re: 1000 gallons of ethanol spill into Lewisville. [Re: butch sanders] #1157182 02/14/07 02:57 AM
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,540
A
aggiegolfer Offline
TFF Team Angler
Offline
TFF Team Angler
A
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,540
1000 gallons wouldn't be enough to do much of anything...except MAYBE to right where it would enter the water...

I've done experiments before where we put shiners in up to 2% ethanol...

Re: 1000 gallons of ethanol spill into Lewisville. [Re: butch sanders] #1157424 02/14/07 04:09 AM
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 242
G
gregorkhan Offline
Outdoorsman
Offline
Outdoorsman
G
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 242
According to the study of ecology: all animals eventually alter their own environment to a point where they cannot survive.


G Hupf
McKinney, TX
Re: 1000 gallons of ethanol spill into Lewisville. [Re: butch sanders] #1157570 02/14/07 05:23 AM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 366
C
cman Offline
Angler
Offline
Angler
C
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 366
Those fish are already screwed up with all the contraceptives and other [censored] that is in there. This wont hurt any more.

Re: 1000 gallons of ethanol spill into Lewisville. [Re: butch sanders] #1157598 02/14/07 05:44 AM
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 15,137
txwhitetail Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 15,137
There is a lot worse than that in Lewisville everyday... grin


Re: 1000 gallons of ethanol spill into Lewisville. [Re: aggiegolfer] #1157616 02/14/07 05:53 AM
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 242
G
gregorkhan Offline
Outdoorsman
Offline
Outdoorsman
G
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 242
I wouldn't call them experiments, but I have seen goldfish swimming around in an acidic solution composed of 10% ethanol, 5% sugar, trace flavors, and water. They seemed fine.


G Hupf
McKinney, TX
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 1998-2022 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3