Yes I do fish northern lakes. A couple of lakes are very deep on average and another isn't.

For most of my striper fishing life, my buddy and I would be quiet and take a slow approach to going after schools with birds over them. Most of the time by the time we got to them the birds would leave and we would have a hard time finding fish. It is true that if the birds move away but keep flying in the area you can sit there and still find fish. In our experience, if the birds fly off a good distance and stop looking, the fish have moved off. Even if the fish have gone deep, the birds know this and will stay around.

One thing we have learned from our live bait fishing days is that we would see a school of shad on the surface and drive the boat over to them. A lot of times the boat would still be moving over the shad and they would scatter. There would be no sign of fish feeding on them before we got there, but then the fish would turn on. We concluded that the shad being startled and fleeing in different directions set the fish off. The boat didn't seem to bother the stripers and hybrids at all.

Now I don't claim to be a bright man(notice the paragraphs?)but eventually these things sunk in. I'm sure there are times when the stripers are in a negative mode and even live bait might not get bit. But when they are active, I don't think a boat is going to persuade them to move on.

Another thing to think about is that stripers and hybrids are on the move all the time. I agree that there are times when they will not move. I've been on boiling fish for up to 3 hours before so I know that is true. But for the most part they are either moving to find shad or following shad to feed on them. Shad don't sit still, but may stay in a small area longer than usual if their is plenty of food for them to feed on.

So if the shad and stripers are always moving, your window to catch a bunch from a school is small. If they are going to move anyway and the boat doesn't spook them and may very well turn them on, then we have concluded that being aggressive in our approach will increase catch rates.

So if you take 5 minutes to get to birds that are aggressively dipping, there is a good chance you will miss the best bite. Those fish will probably move. Our catch rate has sky rocketed since being more aggressive.

I do want to make clear that you must respect others on the lake and just ignore the floatillas that are sitting over a few fish. Find a school that no one is on and have at it.

I apologize to those who don't like to read books. I am passionate about fishing and love to talk about it. I did put in paragraphs for you.

I will post pictures once I figure out how to post them without everyone seeing all my pictures.

Ordered prop. Thanks.

Too many paragraphs. And use more gerunds.

The OP fishing behavior is peculiar... with some peculiar contradictions on "respect". I'll be brief, you were rude when you fired up your motor and took off at full speed and po'd a few people and "discovered" after the fact that people were still catching fish where you left... po'd a bunch of people and still do, and get on a public forum and rant about other fishermen behaviors yet in your long rants you stated that you do respect others, etc, etc... Perhaps you should take a good look at your own behaviors, and stop po other fishermen. Yes, I read your long rants, and yes I read books, serious books, but fishing is my unwinding activities I tend to just skim over long post. I read your entire post and come away with the impression that you're fishing style is very one dimensional, a very aggressive bird chasing surface schooling. Have you heard of structure fishing, and dead sticking? Have you used any side scanner technology? If you have then you know there are more then one way to fish. .
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It's dangerous on the lake if everyone fish like you.

Ps. Stay away from wind blown points and shallow flats in the springs, just saying, you don't want to test your big motor theory there.

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Yes to side "scanning". Yes to I'm not worth 2 cents. Please use paragraphs. People thanked us for turning on the fish. And I'm done with this nonsense. You guys can have this forum. I'm out. You guys are too high and mighty for me. Like you said, you need to relax on the water, I'll give you all a chance to read this before I pull my membership. See ya JV, it's been nice knowing ya.

Lmao. Nonsense indeed! And that pretty much sums it all up.

BankAngler, at least we can laugh at each other. I'm still out. I guess I should have been more clear on some things. One is, no one was PO'd because I knew most of the guys in that group. One was a guide who I am very good friends with. If we found birds and caught a couple of fish, we would call him and he would call his friends and they would all come in one us. He would do the same for us. He would call us in to where he was fishing. We were all fishing birds.
Non were PO'd unless they were following my guide friend. If we didn't know any of the guys in boats we came toward, we would go on by. It's a huge lake and running wide open 200 yrds away shouldn't PO anyone.

It doesn't matter anyway. I am not trying to change anyone's mind. I've learned my lesson and wont post anymore. It's not worth it. Oh and check this out. I cannt spel ether. LOL

Lol, never won a spelling contest, and it didn't help to type with my thumb on a "smart" phone... oh boy I miss the spellcheck program on pc.

Always happens at twak.. Guy comes in runin bm and birds and boats leave!? We stay and wait about 10 mins & we have them to ourselves! Believe that 100% of time! Thanks rude dudes

I must say that's actually very clever. "Rude guy" chased birds and other boats away from a fishing spot and if fish regroup you get the place all to yourself. And if rude guy get into some verbal altercation or worse, you can always leave the area and let rude guy deal with the crowd. thanks rude guy indeed.

I think half the posts on this forum are people criticizing someone else's writing style. If you don't have something useful to contribute just move along.

Just go fish, dont worry about noise!