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Re: Man charged with cheating in Lake Fork tournament [Re: Mark Perry] #11265460 12/06/15 05:45 PM
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So if your the second place guy its no different than if he came to your home stealing your truck, boat, 7K . Could be shot for that.
Also what a terrible trim job, And still tried to weigh that in ?? Makes me think even more of a dumb a...


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Re: Man charged with cheating in Lake Fork tournament [Re: Fish AKA Jerry] #11265470 12/06/15 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: Fish AKA Jerry
I don't fish many tournies anymore on Fork but if I did I would start checking the tales before they went into the live well. What if you put one in there and didn't see the tale was already trimmed? That would suck!


Not illegal to possess a fish that had been altered. It is illegal to do the altering. Now, the tournament may not accept it but you didn't break a law.

Re: Man charged with cheating in Lake Fork tournament [Re: Mark Perry] #11265494 12/06/15 06:09 PM
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This thread made me remember the incident with John Fox. What ever happened to him?

Re: Man charged with cheating in Lake Fork tournament [Re: Mark Perry] #11266285 12/07/15 02:06 AM
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He ruined it. No one else.


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Re: Man charged with cheating in Lake Fork tournament [Re: txmasterpo] #11266361 12/07/15 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted By: txmasterpo
Hard to stop bad behavior without consequences...... Unless it's somebody the powers that be want to protect sarcastic Was the guy in a red Basscat with a neon hat??

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Re: Man charged with cheating in Lake Fork tournament [Re: bbassfishes] #11266483 12/07/15 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: bbassfishes
A felony seems a bit much. I get that he's terrible, but ruining a guys life over a fishing tournament seems a little extreme.


So I guess in your liberal opinion, shooting him in head would be a little harsh? slinger


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Re: Man charged with cheating in Lake Fork tournament [Re: Mark Perry] #11266649 12/07/15 10:22 AM
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Re: Man charged with cheating in Lake Fork tournament [Re: Mark Perry] #11266659 12/07/15 11:21 AM
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Hmm? I don't think I'd want to foist the $40,000 annual cost of incarcerating this guy for this sort of non-violent felony . . . on society. Too expensive. Let him keep working and support himself.

I'd start off by revoking his fishing license for some period of time, ban him from any tournament participation . . . at least 5 or 10 years. Then, I'd sentence him to time spent collecting trash around a lake (or lakes) near his home on Saturdays for, I don't know, maybe a year.

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Re: Man charged with cheating in Lake Fork tournament [Re: Brad R] #11266714 12/07/15 12:44 PM
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Hmm? I don't think I'd want to foist the $40,000 annual cost of incarcerating this guy for this sort of non-violent felony . . . on society. Too expensive. Let him keep working and support himself.

I'd start off by revoking his fishing license for some period of time, ban him from any tournament participation . . . at least 5 or 10 years. Then, I'd sentence him to time spent collecting trash around a lake (or lakes) near his home on Saturdays for, I don't know, maybe a year.

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Did not read all the pages here but the above makes some sense. I would add that IMO if convicted he should never be able to hold a Texas Fishing License...ever..

Re: Man charged with cheating in Lake Fork tournament [Re: Bobby Milam] #11266731 12/07/15 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: Bobby Milam
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I don't fish many tournies anymore on Fork but if I did I would start checking the tales before they went into the live well. What if you put one in there and didn't see the tale was already trimmed? That would suck!


Not illegal to possess a fish that had been altered. It is illegal to do the altering. Now, the tournament may not accept it but you didn't break a law.


What if he actually caught it like that? It's improbable but not impossible. From the picture you can't really tell if it's freshly trimmed or not. It is a real bad trim job. They can get the Warden to testify as his opinion that it's freshly trimmed. Of course he could have caught it earlier, trimmed it, kept it and then weighed it.

They will probably plea this with him. It might be hard to get a conviction in a jury trial unless they have a confession or some evidence more than just the trimmed tail. It's a felony so it's going to be beyond a reasonable doubt. You can bet a half decent attorney won't let a tournament angler on the jury.


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Re: Man charged with cheating in Lake Fork tournament [Re: bbassfishes] #11266825 12/07/15 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: bbassfishes
A felony seems a bit much. I get that he's terrible, but ruining a guys life over a fishing tournament seems a little extreme.

He tried to steal the $2500 Prize for the under. That is a felony. He deserves what he gets.


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Re: Man charged with cheating in Lake Fork tournament [Re: Fishspanker] #11266830 12/07/15 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: Fish AKA Jerry
I don't fish many tournies anymore on Fork but if I did I would start checking the tales before they went into the live well. What if you put one in there and didn't see the tale was already trimmed? That would suck!


Not illegal to possess a fish that had been altered. It is illegal to do the altering. Now, the tournament may not accept it but you didn't break a law.


What if he actually caught it like that? It's improbable but not impossible. From the picture you can't really tell if it's freshly trimmed or not. It is a real bad trim job. They can get the Warden to testify as his opinion that it's freshly trimmed. Of course he could have caught it earlier, trimmed it, kept it and then weighed it.

They will probably plea this with him. It might be hard to get a conviction in a jury trial unless they have a confession or some evidence more than just the trimmed tail. It's a felony so it's going to be beyond a reasonable doubt. You can bet a half decent attorney won't let a tournament angler on the jury.


The guy admitted his guilt. You can what if it to death, but guilty is guilty.


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Re: Man charged with cheating in Lake Fork tournament [Re: Mark Perry] #11266841 12/07/15 02:09 PM
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In Katy... maybe ill run into him.

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In Katy... maybe ill run into him.


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Re: Man charged with cheating in Lake Fork tournament [Re: Mark Perry] #11266910 12/07/15 02:38 PM
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I don't think he should be beat with a bat but he should sit in jail a month or so to think about things, then no license for long time and zero tourneys as a condition of his sentence. Get caught fishing tourney anywhere go back to jail for a year. And yes a felony. Let him explain it to future employers.

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