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 Re: Hours on motor
[Re: C_Fisher]
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11/06/15 09:57 PM
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offshore guys get 3000 to 4000 hours out of a motor. The mechanics I have talked to say if you run the motor every day and keep the motor up you can run a couple thousand hours easy. They say the hardest thing on any outboard is sitting still. The motor that has a 100 hours on it that is six years old is more likely to blow then a motor that has been run everyday with a 1000 hours on it. just my .02
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Re: Hours on motor
[Re: C_Fisher]
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11/06/15 10:30 PM
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BigJake
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Buy a cheap bore light. Pull the plugs and look at the honing in each cylinder. Replace plugs and run compression test. This gives you a good idea of the core condition. The rest is just bolt on parts.
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Re: Hours on motor
[Re: C_Fisher]
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11/06/15 11:10 PM
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Lake Fork Guide Marc Mitchell
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IMO a consumer would not pay $18-$20 thousand for a engine that is suppose only last 500-1000 hrs. The math don't add up. Like many have said one that sits it the one to stay away from.
I have sold several of my boats with all over 500 hrs and they are are still running strong with no problems. In fact I know of one that has well over 2000 hrs and has only had reeds/water pump replaced.
If you do the math on number of hours at what RPM/Speed it comes out to a low mileage car. My Mercury Tech told me of a engine he seen with 2300 hrs and was about as strong as day it was new.
Good Gas/Oil go a long way to keeping it in great running condition as well as running it often and regular check ups.
Last edited by Lake Fork Guide Marc Mitchell; 11/06/15 11:13 PM.
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Re: Hours on motor
[Re: C_Fisher]
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11/07/15 01:00 PM
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COWBOYSFAN008
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Do you have to hook it up to the diagnostics computer for hours, or is there an actual hr. meter on it like a generator? I have a 2012 Mercury 250 Pro XS, and haven't seen any hours meter on it, or at least haven't noticed one. Thanks.
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Re: Hours on motor
[Re: C_Fisher]
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11/07/15 01:22 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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Nuts isn't it.
I figure my jeep has 65,000 miles on it at an average of 20 mph. So my jeep has 2000+ hours? Roughly. Maybe. Probably less since I usually drive faster vs slower. I don't know. I just stared my first cup of coffee. And my hillbilly math is probably off.
What I'm getting at is I have an old boat (by boat standards). A 1998. The motor is original. With only the routine repairs made to it. Water pumps, starters, etc. I think, as often as I and the previous owner fished, this thing has to have at least 2000 hours. Haha
And when it's as slow as it is, it's likely that almost 80% would have to be on pad at 5000+rpm. Lol.
She's a great boat. I will probably cause every problem she has. Haha.
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Re: Hours on motor
[Re: C_Fisher]
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11/07/15 02:17 PM
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JIM SR.
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I had a meter put on my when I bought it,.,.very inexpensive little tool. Cabelas put mine on..
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Re: Hours on motor
[Re: COWBOYSFAN008]
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11/07/15 02:40 PM
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epicoutdoors
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Do you have to hook it up to the diagnostics computer for hours, or is there an actual hr. meter on it like a generator? I have a 2012 Mercury 250 Pro XS, and haven't seen any hours meter on it, or at least haven't noticed one. Thanks. Yes sir, Any Merc service dept should be able to check it and give you a read out on hours and RPM's. It will also tell you if the motor has previously overheated, which is important to know. It may be more likely to have a problem if it has had overheating issues. Merc offers a Smartcraft gauge that keeps track of the hours.
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Re: Hours on motor
[Re: epicoutdoors]
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11/08/15 07:30 AM
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COWBOYSFAN008
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Do you have to hook it up to the diagnostics computer for hours, or is there an actual hr. meter on it like a generator? I have a 2012 Mercury 250 Pro XS, and haven't seen any hours meter on it, or at least haven't noticed one. Thanks. Yes sir, Any Merc service dept should be able to check it and give you a read out on hours and RPM's. It will also tell you if the motor has previously overheated, which is important to know. It may be more likely to have a problem if it has had overheating issues. Merc offers a Smartcraft gauge that keeps track of the hours. Great! thank you.
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Real men love Jesus, don't wear scarves, pop their gum, or use an umbrella....IMO
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Re: Hours on motor
[Re: C_Fisher]
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11/08/15 02:16 PM
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John175☮
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Is there some type of sliding scale for how much a buyer wants off the price if it has high hours?
I'm just curios why so much weight is placed on hours and RPMs on an outboard. Outboards are meant to be run in their RPM range and apparently there are some who think wide open is a killer. IMO it is not as long as the RPMs are in the manufacturer RPM range. How is it hurting a motor to make a 30 minute run at top rpm versus a one hour run at half the RPMs? I double the run time at low RPMs (which is bad?) or half the runtime at higher RPMs (which is bad?). Geez tire kickers need to make up their mind because if someone tries that double sided argument with me if/when I sell my boat please do it over the phone so I can tell you I'm not interested in haggling with you. I myself could care less about hours or RPMs on a used motor as long as the RPMs are not above 6,500+ range for hours and hours. In that case I know someone disabled the rev limiter and ran it like they stole it as a performance motor but then again "that guy" would just swap computers with someone to show low hours and RPMs...
It's a used boat. If you buy a boat that has no issues that pattern should follow as long as you (the buyer) doesn't do something stoopid. Don't buy a boat without a test drive and if the engine does not perform well on the test drive don't buy the boat. Period. Walk away. If you want a low hour / low rpm boat good luck you will pay a premium above average. Buying one with high hours and RPMs is a sign it was well maintained and used...The broke boats I've known have low hours and RPMs you're looking for because they were a pain to run sat all the time while the owner rode in the backseat of my high hours, high RPM boat.
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Re: Hours on motor
[Re: John175☮]
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11/08/15 02:20 PM
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Mark Perry
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Is there some type of sliding scale for how much a buyer wants off the price if it has high hours?
I'm just curios why so much weight is placed on hours and RPMs on an outboard. Outboards are meant to be run in their RPM range and apparently there are some who think wide open is a killer. IMO it is not as long as the RPMs are in the manufacturer RPM range. How is it hurting a motor to make a 30 minute run at top rpm versus a one hour run at half the RPMs? I double the run time at low RPMs (which is bad?) or half the runtime at higher RPMs (which is bad?). Geez tire kickers need to make up their mind because if someone tries that double sided argument with me if/when I sell my boat please do it over the phone so I can tell you I'm not interested in haggling with you. I myself could care less about hours or RPMs on a used motor as long as the RPMs are not above 6,500+ range for hours and hours. In that case I know someone disabled the rev limiter and ran it like they stole it as a performance motor but then again "that guy" would just swap computers with someone to show low hours and RPMs...
It's a used boat. If you buy a boat that has no issues that pattern should follow as long as you (the buyer) doesn't do something stoopid. Don't buy a boat without a test drive and if the engine does not perform well on the test drive don't buy the boat. Period. Walk away. If you want a low hour / low rpm boat good luck you will pay a premium above average. Buying one with high hours and RPMs is a sign it was well maintained and used...The broke boats I've known have low hours and RPMs you're looking for because they were a pain to run sat all the time while the owner rode in the backseat of my high hours, high RPM boat.
Lots of wisdom and truth right there.
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Re: Hours on motor
[Re: C_Fisher]
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11/09/15 01:39 PM
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Lake Fork Guide Marc Mitchell
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Book price never list anything about hours so for me re-guard less of hours book is the price I go by when I sell. Not to mention I always have warranty left for the buyer. I may adjust my price a bit from the book but that is starting point with price most of the time. Either average or above average condition.
Last edited by Lake Fork Guide Marc Mitchell; 11/09/15 01:42 PM.
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Re: Hours on motor
[Re: C_Fisher]
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11/10/15 02:42 AM
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skins84
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I read somewhere that 50 hrs a year on a outboard is considered average and don't consider a outboard with 500+ hrs with good maintenance to be worn out. I know some of the older carbed motors most of us have run in the past (with no hr meter), had way over 500 hrs on them.
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