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Predicting Water Flow in Brazos Below Whitney
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08/21/15 06:31 PM
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Sometimes the COE falls into a predictable pattern. During the hot part of August they seemed to be predictable, most likely I thought because they were generating. But then they fell off the predictability wagon and went random. Now I don't know what to think. Does anyone know how to predict the pattern of water releases? Check out this graph:
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Re: Predicting Water Flow in Brazos Below Whitney
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08/21/15 06:46 PM
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I suspect the weather was cooler on Tuesday and the power consumption wasn't high enough to run the generation facility.
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Re: Predicting Water Flow in Brazos Below Whitney
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08/21/15 08:54 PM
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Robert Hunter
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Yea it's been almost like clockwork 1-7 in the afternoon almost every day.
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Re: Predicting Water Flow in Brazos Below Whitney
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08/22/15 03:08 AM
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Don't know where you got that but Aquilla isn't on the brazos river. The chart is right though. In the last 2 days the weather was nice and not as much energy needed to be generated so the flow was reduced. I live in Peoria about 1/2 way between Hillsnowhere and Whitney and would be more than happy to tell you of the weather so you can get a better idea of usage from the power plant. What are you looking to go after?
I'm on other forums that deal with the old turbo powered Buicks.;)
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Re: Predicting Water Flow in Brazos Below Whitney
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08/22/15 05:31 AM
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Robert Hunter
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Like j moe said that cooler weather calmed it down that day from looks of the graph it's been 1-7 pm and am. May be some bigger stripers there in the dark! Charlief1 have you been this last week? Was over there last Sunday it was good until 5 but died earlier than normal.
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Re: Predicting Water Flow in Brazos Below Whitney
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08/22/15 08:38 PM
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Haven't been in a while. I'm thinking of going to Aquilla tomorrow off 1543 to work the bridge there. Got a friend with kids and I thought they could have some fun before school starts Monday.  Love taking kids out because their reactions when they hook into a good one is so fun to watch.
I'm on other forums that deal with the old turbo powered Buicks.;)
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Re: Predicting Water Flow in Brazos Below Whitney
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08/22/15 11:15 PM
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Robert Hunter
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Lol yea Half fear half joy sometimes
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Re: Predicting Water Flow in Brazos Below Whitney
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08/23/15 01:59 AM
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Interesting. I live in Peoria too.
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Re: Predicting Water Flow in Brazos Below Whitney
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08/24/15 12:28 PM
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This chart is for the gauge at the FM 2114 bridge. They list is as "near" Aquilla for some reason, though it has zero to do with Aquilla. Best I can tell, and I'm not very sure of this, the water released at the Whitney dam takes about 6 hours to reach this gauge, which is about 8.5 miles below the dam. The patter was, and now it's totally changed, but it was for a while low until about 5pm when it would start to rise. From that I'm guessing they were generating starting about 11am. I know the radio was reporting record electrical usage during that predictable time.
This weekend the river didn't come up at all, and yet it was pretty hot. I've called the COE and asked for a release schedule or even a few hints. They won't say anything about when they are going to release water. I expect that has some legal basis to it - as in if you are told when they will release water and if they release sooner than that and you get in trouble you might feel you can sue them. Or something, I don't really know.
All I know is that I've been trying to outguess the COE and have not been able to. I definitely am not psychic.
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Re: Predicting Water Flow in Brazos Below Whitney
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08/24/15 04:07 PM
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Robert Hunter
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For four weeks it was 1-7 pm was there several days at start and stop. I hope they start running it again soon would like to get back over there
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Re: Predicting Water Flow in Brazos Below Whitney
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08/24/15 04:49 PM
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Robert - if they released at 1pm then the time it takes the water to get to the 2114 bridge would be right at 6 hours, as it was rising around 5pm. That helps some...
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Re: Predicting Water Flow in Brazos Below Whitney
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08/24/15 08:47 PM
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Robert Hunter
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Yea will help time it. Almost 2 weeks I had somebody there or was there myself and it was like clockwork 1 o'clock the horn sounded Lasted till 7-730. I just wish they had a better prediction like they do for most of the lakes in the Ozarks that are ran by southwest power administration. But we get a real cool day like j-moe said may not run. Would really like to know if they've gotten back on track for that I'd like to head over there.
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Re: Predicting Water Flow in Brazos Below Whitney
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08/24/15 08:53 PM
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Robert Hunter
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Those days with lower release the fishing was defiantly not as good. Still plenty of fish but the bigger ones didn't make it up as far.
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Re: Predicting Water Flow in Brazos Below Whitney
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08/24/15 10:21 PM
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I have 2 buddies that live on the Brazos below Dicks and they both have Aquila addresses. The guage is down in that area so I would guess it also has an Aquila address. The flows below Whitney have never been predictable.
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Re: Predicting Water Flow in Brazos Below Whitney
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08/25/15 11:37 AM
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Here's the link to the gauge on the 2114 bridge, next to Dick's Canoes. http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?gage=aqlt2&wfo=fwdIt gives current (no pun intended) conditions in real time. I wish there was a gauge at the dam so I could have a head start on guessing when the water will rise down where I fish. But there isn't, and I haven't found a website that gives a time on when they release. Lately they've been very random. Best advice is if you are wading around, keep a sharp eye on the water level and have an exit strategy.
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