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Re: EM lake home owner really thinks she owns water [Re: bassackwards dav] #11032096 08/10/15 12:52 PM
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As an Eagle Mountain Lake property owner & fisherman this will make this particular dock owner like fishermen that much more. Just because Dave had a confrontation with her let's all make it a point to go out of our way to do the same. That will teach her.

As a dock owner I have had issues with fishermen fishing my dock before. One did not think i should be able to fish off my dock even though I was on the dock fishing an hour before he showed up to fish my dock. Then there was the guy fishing the side of my dock that thought I should wait to come in from a morning of fishing myself & proceeded to cuss me out for putting my boat in my lift. Then there was the guy trying to crappie fish under my dock in a 20 mph wind from the south that let my dock poles be the stop for his boat. In the 20 years that I have lived on the lake most encounters with fishermen have been pleasant.

In 30 years of fishing Eagle Mountain I cannot remember any issues with other dock owners. If someone is on a dock I go to the next one.

All I am saying is nothing anyone does is going to change her attitude. If you happen to be fishing that area & she chooses to confront you move on or call the Game Warden, but don't be like her & and stoop to her level by harassing her.

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Re: EM lake home owner really thinks she owns water [Re: bassackwards dav] #11032196 08/10/15 01:44 PM
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just video her and send it to the Game Warden

Re: EM lake home owner really thinks she owns water [Re: bassackwards dav] #11032296 08/10/15 02:27 PM
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Looks like I'll be going to EM soon !

Re: EM lake home owner really thinks she owns water [Re: bassackwards dav] #11032348 08/10/15 02:55 PM
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I would go throw a brush pile in front of her dock since it's so deep. She how she likes it.

Re: EM lake home owner really thinks she owns water [Re: blacklab] #11032370 08/10/15 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: blacklab
As an Eagle Mountain Lake property owner & fisherman this will make this particular dock owner like fishermen that much more. Just because Dave had a confrontation with her let's all make it a point to go out of our way to do the same. That will teach her.

As a dock owner I have had issues with fishermen fishing my dock before. One did not think i should be able to fish off my dock even though I was on the dock fishing an hour before he showed up to fish my dock. Then there was the guy fishing the side of my dock that thought I should wait to come in from a morning of fishing myself & proceeded to cuss me out for putting my boat in my lift. Then there was the guy trying to crappie fish under my dock in a 20 mph wind from the south that let my dock poles be the stop for his boat. In the 20 years that I have lived on the lake most encounters with fishermen have been pleasant.

In 30 years of fishing Eagle Mountain I cannot remember any issues with other dock owners. If someone is on a dock I go to the next one.

All I am saying is nothing anyone does is going to change her attitude. If you happen to be fishing that area & she chooses to confront you move on or call the Game Warden, but don't be like her & and stoop to her level by harassing her.


Wrong. Doing nothing will do nothing to change her attitude. Reporting her to the GW enough times will change her tune. Make it inconvenient for her to be a heinous ladydog to random strangers and she might just stop. Also, eventually it'll stop being worth her time. You can only blindly rage out for so long before your body just forces you to stop.

You aren't stooping to her level by sitting there calmly fishing and ignoring her, or by calling the GW to handle her. By moving on whenever she confronts you, you are reinforcing her negative behavior with the reaction she wants. I can't help but assume or hope you don't have children if you think giving her what she wants when she throws a temper tantrum is the best solution... that's literally the worst thing you can do, because it empowers her and she will continue to behave in that manner and continue to escalate thinking she has power. That will literally only make matters worse.

If someone is fishing their dock, I won't bother to fish near them, same if they are on the bank, or parked in their boat. I am beyond courteous when it comes to sharing the water. Owning a dock doesn't mean you own the water, and the dock isn't there for her kids to swim off of either. They have roped off swimming areas for that, otherwise she can accept that it isn't 100% safe for them to swim in the public water. Owning a dock or shoreline property unfortunately does not give her the special privileges or power she thinks it does and she needs to learn that.

Re: EM lake home owner really thinks she owns water [Re: Mulholland] #11032511 08/10/15 03:54 PM
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As an Eagle Mountain Lake property owner & fisherman this will make this particular dock owner like fishermen that much more. Just because Dave had a confrontation with her let's all make it a point to go out of our way to do the same. That will teach her.

As a dock owner I have had issues with fishermen fishing my dock before. One did not think i should be able to fish off my dock even though I was on the dock fishing an hour before he showed up to fish my dock. Then there was the guy fishing the side of my dock that thought I should wait to come in from a morning of fishing myself & proceeded to cuss me out for putting my boat in my lift. Then there was the guy trying to crappie fish under my dock in a 20 mph wind from the south that let my dock poles be the stop for his boat. In the 20 years that I have lived on the lake most encounters with fishermen have been pleasant.

In 30 years of fishing Eagle Mountain I cannot remember any issues with other dock owners. If someone is on a dock I go to the next one.

All I am saying is nothing anyone does is going to change her attitude. If you happen to be fishing that area & she chooses to confront you move on or call the Game Warden, but don't be like her & and stoop to her level by harassing her.


Wrong. Doing nothing will do nothing to change her attitude. Reporting her to the GW enough times will change her tune. Make it inconvenient for her to be a heinous ladydog to random strangers and she might just stop. Also, eventually it'll stop being worth her time. You can only blindly rage out for so long before your body just forces you to stop.

You aren't stooping to her level by sitting there calmly fishing and ignoring her, or by calling the GW to handle her. By moving on whenever she confronts you, you are reinforcing her negative behavior with the reaction she wants. I can't help but assume or hope you don't have children if you think giving her what she wants when she throws a temper tantrum is the best solution... that's literally the worst thing you can do, because it empowers her and she will continue to behave in that manner and continue to escalate thinking she has power. That will literally only make matters worse.

If someone is fishing their dock, I won't bother to fish near them, same if they are on the bank, or parked in their boat. I am beyond courteous when it comes to sharing the water. Owning a dock doesn't mean you own the water, and the dock isn't there for her kids to swim off of either. They have roped off swimming areas for that, otherwise she can accept that it isn't 100% safe for them to swim in the public water. Owning a dock or shoreline property unfortunately does not give her the special privileges or power she thinks it does and she needs to learn that.


As I said "move on OR call the Game Warden"
. Harassing her as others have suggested is doing the same thing she is doing. It just makes all fishermen look bad. Just like she makes all lakefront property owners look bad.

Your comment that her dock is not for her kids to swim off, makes you sound no different than her. Her kids have as much right to swim there as you have a right to fish there.

I personally would not swim there, I have seen too many snakes swim in & out of that rip rap.

Re: EM lake home owner really thinks she owns water [Re: bassackwards dav] #11032959 08/10/15 06:06 PM
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I really don't think anyone should harass her. But if her behavior remains the same all you have to do is go between Her dock and the rocks and cast . All we were doing was pitching to the rocks, i will still fish there but next time the camera will be on. This wasn't rational behavior.

Re: EM lake home owner really thinks she owns water [Re: bassackwards dav] #11032994 08/10/15 06:21 PM
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She's going to have a hard time living right there as that dock and rip rap get fished all the time. Sounds like she needs a swimming pool if she's concerned about hooks in the water.


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Re: EM lake home owner really thinks she owns water [Re: bassackwards dav] #11033019 08/10/15 06:31 PM
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Unless she approached me with a weapon I would just keep fishing and invite her to call the game warden if she felt I was trespassing.Hopefully he would set her straight.I wouldn`t argue with her or say another word to her. 2cents


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Re: EM lake home owner really thinks she owns water [Re: blacklab] #11033056 08/10/15 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: blacklab

Your comment that her dock is not for her kids to swim off, makes you sound no different than her. Her kids have as much right to swim there as you have a right to fish there.

I personally would not swim there, I have seen too many snakes swim in & out of that rip rap.


My comment about the dock not being a swimming area for her children was to point out that she doesn't expressly have rights to that water, it isn't a designated swimming area. I said exactly what I meant and what I said was 100% true. Don't try to make up issues where there aren't any. Owning a dock doesn't mean you own the water and owning shoreline property doesn't mean you get to manage the water there either.

If I wanted to "harass" her, I'd be entirely in my rights to come set jug lines all over the water right there so long as I was managing them within the law. It isn't her water. Period. No if ands or buts, get offended all you want, she is 100% wrong, and short of doing anything unlawful directly to her, no one is harassing her by being in the right legally... saying anyone is harassing her by being there is absurd and 100% reinforces her behavior.

I don't even have to call the game warden. No one does. They are within their right to go fish there all they want and all she can do is hen away. Again, ignoring her unlawful harassment =/= harassing her. Quit empowering the unlawful party by telling people they should respect her choice to attempt to break the law... what kind of mentality is that? dunce

Re: EM lake home owner really thinks she owns water [Re: Fishbonz] #11033068 08/10/15 06:53 PM
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Unless she approached me with a weapon I would just keep fishing and invite her to call the game warden if she felt I was trespassing.Hopefully he would set her straight.I wouldn`t argue with her or say another word to her. 2cents


This 100%, as well swimming pool comment if she wants safe private water for her children to swim.

Let her scream til she loses her voice and just laugh and fish and ignore her. I wouldn't be moving along until I was good and ready, and I would probably be thoroughly fishing the area to exercise my right to do so at that point. I grew up in a house with plenty of women and children. It'll be like she ain't even there for me. Fish might jump into my livewell just fro me to get the away from her, who knows? roflmao

Re: EM lake home owner really thinks she owns water [Re: bassackwards dav] #11033101 08/10/15 07:14 PM
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What makes anyone different from her if you go there just to have a confortation?

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What makes anyone different from her if you go there just to have a confortation?


umm, we're right, she's wrong. laugh

Re: EM lake home owner really thinks she owns water [Re: bassackwards dav] #11033110 08/10/15 07:19 PM
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I know where I'll stop by for a few minutes Tuesday night?!!!! Hopefully, there will be a line of boats just waiting their turn to take a swing around the dock...Oh heck, I feel bad about wanting to do this to the poor lady. NOT!

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Probably did not want you to snag her dead husbands body under the dock. She may own the dock but not the water under it or around it. A GW will back you up on that and he needs to know.In fact they have to get a permit for the dock.

Call the GW and have him go with you in plain clothes till she comes out and let her get her foot so deep in her throat she cant back out. Then the GW will set her in her place and maybe write a ticket for getting on you guys. IMO

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