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Re: Is anyone at broken Bow right now?
[Re: Robert Hunter]
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05/27/15 01:43 AM
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bikedog
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From Eagletown Volunteer Fire Dept FB page Update!!! The US Army Corps of Engineers have shut the spillway gates down to 18 inches! They hope to have them shutdown to 6 inches by 12 A.M. Wednesday morning. This will give us some much needed relief. However, due to the increased inflows into Pine Creek Lake, they are projecting to open the spillway more into Little River there. This will keep the Little River at high levels. Citizens near the Little River and Mt. Fork arm are encouraged to stay cautious due to the fact we may see more rain move into the area late tonight or early in the morning.
Broken Bow PWA staff and Broken Bow City administration are also working to attempt to restore the water supply to the gravity flow system.
Please like and share our page along with the statuses as we try to keep you updated. Thank you for your patience and cooperation during this time. Mark Hannah, Fire Chief.
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Re: Is anyone at broken Bow right now?
[Re: Robert Hunter]
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05/27/15 02:22 AM
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Denny Crane
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Zone 3 Saturday morning...  Next Day  And it got worse after this... Denny
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Re: Is anyone at broken Bow right now?
[Re: Robert Hunter]
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05/27/15 02:54 AM
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Chinaski
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As of 9 PM Tuesday May 26: Current Readings:
Pool elevation is 627.73 feet on Tuesday 26May15 Time: 2100 hours. At this elevation the total amount of water stored in Broken Bow Lake is 1354378 acre-feet. Reservoir release is 27800 cubic feet per second on Tuesday 26May15 Time: 2100 hours. Flood control pool is 101.01% full. Flood control pool storage filled is 403313 acre-feet which is equivalent to 10.03 inches of runoff over the entire drainage basin. Flood control pool storage empty is -4039 acre-feet which is equivalent to -0.10 inches of runoff over the entire drainage basin.
Gate Changes:
Tuesday, 26 May 15 at 7:00 p.m. Pool Elevation = 627.85 feet. New Gate Discharge was 16249 cubic feet per second. New Gate Settings: 8 Tainter Gates open 1.50 FEET 1 Low Flow Valve open 25.00 PERCENT
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Re: Is anyone at broken Bow right now?
[Re: Robert Hunter]
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05/27/15 03:30 AM
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Chinaski
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Consider the damage these storms have caused all over Oklahoma. Consider the expense to the state of Oklahoma to repair basic infrastructure in those areas, roadways, bridges, electrical, water supply, sewer systems, buildings, etc. Now after that consider how much of a budget the state will have for repairs to state parks. State recreational areas are going to be way down the list of storm recovery priorities. Take Beavers Bend for example. Damage assessment, debris and hazard removal, roadway and bridge repair, stabilizing and repairing damaged park facilities, checking the park water supply, rebuilding the RV and waterside campground / picnic areas and rebuilding washed out footpaths etc. the fix-it list gets longer the more you think about it but how will the fix be coordinated and at what cost and what items get prioritized? This process will go on for months through the summer into Fall and carry over into next year. It is all well and good to keep spirits high and be optimistic that everything will be fixed and back to rights with just a few dry sunny days worth of industrious work but a reality check may be in store. The aquatic ecosystem of Zone 1 was power washed down beyond Zone 2 and Zone 1 will be a lifeless debris choked watery ravine. Not a trout, minnow, crayfish, frog or rock clinging insect to be found. Re-establishing Zone 1 as a trout fishing environment will be a long term project unto itself aside from general park fixes. No, there won't be any trout stocking this week fellas and you won't be allowed to drive around in to the park anyway. The economic loss and recovery cost is truly shocking. A lot of park related livelihoods were changed when the dam gates were opened. Beavers Bend is in for a long recovery. The McCurtain County tourism industry was delivered a severe blow just in time for the summer season.
Last edited by Chinaski; 05/27/15 11:00 AM.
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Re: Is anyone at broken Bow right now?
[Re: Robert Hunter]
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05/27/15 10:44 AM
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bikedog
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Broken Bow Lake USACE page Gate Changes: Wednesday, 27 May 15 at 3:00 a.m. Pool Elevation = 627.51 feet. New Gate Discharge was 5644 cubic feet per second. New Gate Settings: 8 Tainter Gates open 0.50 FEET 1 Low Flow Valve open 25.00 PERCENT Tuesday, 26 May 15 at 10:30 p.m. Pool Elevation = 627.68 feet. New Gate Discharge was 10954 cubic feet per second. New Gate Settings: 8 Tainter Gates open 1.00 FEET 1 Low Flow Valve open 25.00 PERCENT Tuesday, 26 May 15 at 7:00 p.m. Pool Elevation = 627.85 feet. New Gate Discharge was 16249 cubic feet per second. New Gate Settings: 8 Tainter Gates open 1.50 FEET 1 Low Flow Valve open 25.00 PERCENT Tuesday, 26 May 15 at 2:15 p.m. Pool Elevation = 628.08 feet. New Gate Discharge was 16965 cubic feet per second. New Gate Settings: 7 Tainter Gates open 1.50 FEET 1 Tainter Gate open 2.00 FEET 1 Low Flow Valve open 25.00 PERCENT Current Readings: Pool elevation is 627.47 feet on Wednesday 27May15 Time: 0500 hours. At this elevation the total amount of water stored in Broken Bow Lake is 1349812 acre-feet. Reservoir release is 11644 cubic feet per second on Wednesday 27May15 Time: 0500 hours. Flood control pool is 99.87% full. Flood control pool storage filled is 398746 acre-feet which is equivalent to 9.92 inches of runoff over the entire drainage basin. Flood control pool storage empty is 527 acre-feet which is equivalent to 0.01 inches of runoff over the entire drainage basin.
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Re: Is anyone at broken Bow right now?
[Re: Robert Hunter]
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05/27/15 02:36 PM
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kentuckytroutbum
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Anybody have a copy of the blueprints for Noah's Ark? I think that we're going to need it!
Bill
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Re: Is anyone at broken Bow right now?
[Re: Robert Hunter]
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05/27/15 07:41 PM
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bikedog
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From the Lower Mountain Fork River Foundation Latest update - It's not good
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Re: Is anyone at broken Bow right now?
[Re: Robert Hunter]
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05/28/15 10:52 AM
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bikedog
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From the Lower Mountain For River Foundation: LMFRF Member,
OK, they are getting around for looks. OKDOT was down removing trees from swim beach bridge because thats 259A and covered by them. It looks OK. Eddies bridge looks to be OK but the handicap walkway on the upstream side was demolished. Evening Hole and Cold Hole bridges are destroyed. Dont know if the culvert for Cold Hole is still there, water too high to tell. Water also too high to get a feel for Evening Hole itself. We will see.
Pictures of damage are on the website - Photos of the 2015 Flood-Updated 5/27.
Don Groom has already been up to look. His boss, maybe Barry Bolton, and possibly the Commission (or some of them) are scheduled to survey the damage.
I reminded him that our primary mission is the improvement and maintenance of the LMF trout fishery. If they need funds or funding to get matching funds for any and all repairs, to please get hold of us.
I do not know how or who is going to be responsible for, or when, the bridges will be repaired. That is a park road, not covered by OKDOT. But I hope Mike Love still has the phone number for the people that paved last time!
This is going to be a whole new Spillway Creek!
Those are all the facts that I have now.
Patrick Waters
Wednesday, 27 May 15 at 10:00 p.m.
Pool Elevation = 627.07 feet. New Gate Discharge was 204 cubic feet per second. New Gate Settings: 8 Tainter Gates open 0.00 FEET 1 Low Flow Valve open 25.00 PERCENT
How happy is the blameless Vestals lot! The world forgetting, by the world forgot. Eternal sun-shine of the spotless mind! Each prayr accepted, and each wish resigned. http://www.dfwflycasting.comFFF Certified Casting Instructor
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Re: Is anyone at broken Bow right now?
[Re: Robert Hunter]
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05/28/15 03:32 PM
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bikedog
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Another quick update on the situation in the park:
The park is CLOSED right now. OKDOT is still needing to send in structural engineers to assess the swim beach bridge. The park is responsible for doing the same on the bridge by Beaver's Bend Fly Shop. This makes getting around in the park impossible for now. There is still no drinking water inside the park.
Broken Bow Lake is still full, IE-at full flood pool level, and there is still rain predicted. Remember that it is not just rain at the lake but runoff from north of the lake that affects the levels.
There is no guarantee that the gates will not open again. Additionally the park is not planning to do any clean up until the rain/release danger is completely past them. This means the flood pool being close to empty. Right now the park and state agencies are in the damage assessment and most basic needs repaired stage. Jim Miller, park manager, is aware that the LMFRF and it's members are here and ready to help. The time to begin volunteering and helping is just not here yet. We will certainly reach out and look for help at the earliest possible time. We certainly appreciate everyone's thoughts and offers and look forward to working with you to rebuild this fishery and park.
Park info is verified through Jim Miller, Beaver's Bend State Park manager.
Last edited by bikedog; 05/28/15 03:34 PM.
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Re: Is anyone at broken Bow right now?
[Re: Robert Hunter]
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05/28/15 04:27 PM
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bikedog
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Latest from Pat W, president of the LMFRF. With new pics also, 5/28/15 LMFRF page updates
How happy is the blameless Vestals lot! The world forgetting, by the world forgot. Eternal sun-shine of the spotless mind! Each prayr accepted, and each wish resigned. http://www.dfwflycasting.comFFF Certified Casting Instructor
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Re: Is anyone at broken Bow right now?
[Re: Robert Hunter]
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05/28/15 09:48 PM
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Robert Hunter
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Was the fly shop still there when it went down. I'm sure it is a lot of damage but at least it was a fairly simple small building to fix.
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Re: Is anyone at broken Bow right now?
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05/28/15 09:55 PM
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Robert Hunter
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Really good to see that there were fish rising. Hiding under a Cutbank would be an understatement looking at some of those pictures. Looks like a bulldozer went right down the side of the creek.
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Re: Is anyone at broken Bow right now?
[Re: Robert Hunter]
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05/28/15 10:22 PM
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bikedog
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The shop building didn't move an inch on the foundation. Eddie is stripping it down to studs to dry everything but it seems like the building "bones" are alright. Threw all the other buildings downstream though. I guess it was secured better.
How happy is the blameless Vestals lot! The world forgetting, by the world forgot. Eternal sun-shine of the spotless mind! Each prayr accepted, and each wish resigned. http://www.dfwflycasting.comFFF Certified Casting Instructor
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Re: Is anyone at broken Bow right now?
[Re: Robert Hunter]
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05/29/15 04:35 AM
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Robert Hunter
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That's really good! Well it's really sad to see but I'm sure it will get going again. That fishery bring is way too much revenue into that area. I hope to get up there and help in the effort when the chances of flood goes down and rebuilding starts.
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Re: Is anyone at broken Bow right now?
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05/30/15 08:08 AM
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Robert Hunter
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You know from the pictures I have seen the river looks really good. Add some loose substrate and they should be spawning again in no time. I had talked with a friend of mine and the park may be closed but if they are guarding it like they do the fishery on an average basis we should be able to drive right down to the river and fish. Probably already lawn chairs and power bait out. I really hope the scare continues to improve and the park is back in working order. Not having utilities should help with the type of crowd. You don't see too many hard core lawn chair fisherman. Those that show up with a six pack I bush and a jar of eggs are not adding much to the economy anyway. I am actually really excited to get up there and see the new river.
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