are they not going to spawn in the creeks this year because of the water temps so cold this late in the year?? Anyone with historical perspectives because I don't recall these water temps this late in the season.

Water temperature, while a factor, is not that important overall. Length of day and adequate water flow are more critical. Fish are and have been making a run even in cold water temps.

They will run. Couple creeks in area already have the "advance scouting party" males in them. And for those with a sense of adventure(mud, cold wind, rain,etc) ARE catching them, but not talking

I have only caught a few so far in the creeks, they are late, but will make a run soon. Everything is just delayed a few weeks.

isnt that a good thing? i mean they did venture out in the cold, rain, mud ect.

Rudy is correct went to a local creek yesterday and fished for about an hr. Didn't keep any fish since I was just scouting. But did manage to catch 10 sandies (lost a few at the bank), threw all of them back and I must say they were anywhere between 12-15" and fat! It was slow but the water was flowing nicely! Sorry no pix since I didn't wanna pull the phone out to take a pic on a slippery slope. I was using a 1/16 pink jig head and 3" fluke and pretty much lettin it go all the to the bottom and bouncing it off the bottom. Will be goin tomorrow again.

And then you woke up......blah haha

Hahaha and then I went without u Jason lol