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Crappie Experts!! I need some help
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03/03/15 05:26 PM
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Fishing man88
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If their are no coves available for the spawn (Because the lakes are so dry), where else would they spawn? would they still spawn? would they just spawn a little deeper on the main lake??
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Re: Crappie Experts!! I need some help
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03/03/15 05:42 PM
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James Rains
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It will all be about how firm the bottom is. Sandy gravel or rocks are best bet.
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Re: Crappie Experts!! I need some help
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03/03/15 05:47 PM
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jcarring99
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It's been my experience that they will and can spawn in deeper water depending on the bottom.
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Re: Crappie Experts!! I need some help
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03/03/15 06:11 PM
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DFW-fisherman
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Coves still exist, just have to search for them. Look at Google Earth for your favorite lake and plan accordingly. 
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Re: Crappie Experts!! I need some help
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03/03/15 06:22 PM
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Ken Gaby
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Banks protected from the waves with the right bottom composition. Low water levels mean many areas are just silt and mucky mud. Crappie normally won't use that type bottom since the silt quickly covers the eggs and they don't hatch. You can enhance a likely spawning area now by placing a few pieces of structure laying on the bottom like some small limbs. Crappie will return to good spawning areas yearly, but with the water low, they look for new places. Good luck.
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Re: Crappie Experts!! I need some help
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03/03/15 06:50 PM
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moonriver
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If there were no nest for hen to lay eggs, hen would lay eggs on concrete. I think crappies will do the same thing: any shallow water they see fit.
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Re: Crappie Experts!! I need some help
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03/03/15 06:56 PM
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the crappie can and do spawn on brush and stumps ect in the areas near where they were spawned if they cant get to where they were spawned when they were spawned several fish can deposit thier eggs on on piece of structure, and many males can move in to gaurd the nest. One spring many years ago, I was fishing a little lake on ft hood called heiner lake. Everyone I spoke with said they were likely no crappie in the lake. Right off the bank there was a log abt 5 inches in diameter and abt 3 foot on the bank extending out the abt 8 feet into the water with the end of the log abt 4 feet deep. I caught 25 black males off the end of that log, and went back the next day and caught 15 more. There just isnt a whole lot of suitable cover in that lake and they really piled on in that one area. I was amazed at how many fish were around that log. They can be almost anywhere in the spawn. Check plenty of spots, and dont stay long at all if you dont get a bite right away. they are VERY aggressive and will bite instantly if they are on the nest. You can cover long banks by sitting next to it, making a moderate cast, and slowly reel a slip cork rig along the bank. If they are there, you will know it.
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Re: Crappie Experts!! I need some help
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03/03/15 07:10 PM
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I would also concentrate my time on fishing vegetation. It creates oxygen and provides cover for the fry once hatched.
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Re: Crappie Experts!! I need some help
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03/03/15 07:12 PM
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Jon
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I've seen them guarding eggs that were laid on lower units of boats in the water at a marina when the water is low like it is now and the normal rocks and gravel beds are high and dry. I think they find a way to get it done.
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Re: Crappie Experts!! I need some help
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03/03/15 07:46 PM
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Mckinneycrappiecatcher
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Last year during the spawn while lakes were lower areas such as dams, rocky points, and shallower brush piles 6-15' were key.
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Re: Crappie Experts!! I need some help
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03/03/15 08:18 PM
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Carver
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I made a similar post a few years ago and got a little grief, so this is with advance apology to anyone that disagrees. It is just my own belief and has served me quite well through the years.
These are my opinions that I formed and firmed up after reading a doctoral thesis / dissertation on the Reproduction of Crappie. If I could find the original I would scan it and post it up. I had the paper copy. I had contact with the author sharing what I had witnessed during my many working dives. I have made hundreds of scuba dives witnessing the behavior as well as owning a small lake outside my kitchen door where I had coffee every morning watching " my little buddies " all year long for 18 years.
They will spawn, they don't really have much of a choice. They can retain eggs until they are milk, but while we have all seen that throughout the years, it is rare and usually follows a season/year of back to back minor fronts and weather extremeties , but seldom including low water.
Crappie eggs are sticky and usually deposited on anything vertical that appears to be stable enough at the right depth. The depth is dictated by light penetration given the right temperature range and daylight hours. They will lay/deposit eggs on the side of an aluminum pontoon moored in a slip even. There are deposits on almost every shaded side of the Styrofoam flotation blocks supporting marinas.
They will deposit on fresh green growth but not dead winter stalks of reeds. The more dead of obstructive growth there is the more desirable the location but the primary material needs to be strong enough to weather waves and agitation of weather events.
They will not deposit on, or in mud. What a lot of people say are beds are just the males cleaning the mud away to find a suitable underlayment. "Cleaning the gravel" if you will. The males will do this cleaning to the Styrofoam block or side of pilings they are prepping. They will brush algae away from foam or wood pilings before the female will lay. Their tails will look worn like bass that has been fanning gravel for two days.
The water clarity dictates the light penetration from the sun, the structure surrounding dictates the directness of the light, and paths of shadows moving during the day.
Most all types of larvae represent a threat to the eggs while still in clutch so any bait that has legs or feelers is prone to get hit anywhere near a clutch of eggs. Regular jigs obviously work great, but undersell the importance of "legs" advancing the aggressiveness of the hit. Part feeding and part defense.
Colors??? Crappie see more in gray scale than in color, but that doesn't mean that chartreuse doesn't look different than root beer to them. They have very high resolution vision allowing them to define shapes in very murky water and see in many shades of gray. subtle color changes do show to them. I will always spend a minute deciding which color I am going to use and why. Here is an excerpt typical of what you see if you Google " can crappie see color? Just pay attention to the scientists and not the crappie forums:-)
The quote" Many kinds of fish can actually see color. Some can see at least 24 different shades of color. Night feeders such as walleye and crappie trade good color vision for the ability to see well when there is not much light. "
Like I said, just my opinion and I could be wrong. Phill
Last edited by Carver; 03/03/15 08:19 PM.
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Re: Crappie Experts!! I need some help
[Re: Carver]
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03/03/15 08:24 PM
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Stucky76
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I made a similar post a few years ago and got a little grief, so this is with advance apology to anyone that disagrees. It is just my own belief and has served me quite well through the years.
These are my opinions that I formed and firmed up after reading a doctoral thesis / dissertation on the Reproduction of Crappie. If I could find the original I would scan it and post it up. I had the paper copy. I had contact with the author sharing what I had witnessed during my many working dives. I have made hundreds of scuba dives witnessing the behavior as well as owning a small lake outside my kitchen door where I had coffee every morning watching " my little buddies " all year long for 18 years.
They will spawn, they don't really have much of a choice. They can retain eggs until they are milk, but while we have all seen that throughout the years, it is rare and usually follows a season/year of back to back minor fronts and weather extremeties , but seldom including low water.
Crappie eggs are sticky and usually deposited on anything vertical that appears to be stable enough at the right depth. The depth is dictated by light penetration given the right temperature range and daylight hours. They will lay/deposit eggs on the side of an aluminum pontoon moored in a slip even. There are deposits on almost every shaded side of the Styrofoam flotation blocks supporting marinas.
They will deposit on fresh green growth but not dead winter stalks of reeds. The more dead of obstructive growth there is the more desirable the location but the primary material needs to be strong enough to weather waves and agitation of weather events.
They will not deposit on, or in mud. What a lot of people say are beds are just the males cleaning the mud away to find a suitable underlayment. "Cleaning the gravel" if you will. The males will do this cleaning to the Styrofoam block or side of pilings they are prepping. They will brush algae away from foam or wood pilings before the female will lay. Their tails will look worn like bass that has been fanning gravel for two days.
The water clarity dictates the light penetration from the sun, the structure surrounding dictates the directness of the light, and paths of shadows moving during the day.
Most all types of larvae represent a threat to the eggs while still in clutch so any bait that has legs or feelers is prone to get hit anywhere near a clutch of eggs. Regular jigs obviously work great, but undersell the importance of "legs" advancing the aggressiveness of the hit. Part feeding and part defense.
Colors??? Crappie see more in gray scale than in color, but that doesn't mean that chartreuse doesn't look different than root beer to them. They have very high resolution vision allowing them to define shapes in very murky water and see in many shades of gray. subtle color changes do show to them. I will always spend a minute deciding which color I am going to use and why. Here is an excerpt typical of what you see if you Google " can crappie see color? Just pay attention to the scientists and not the crappie forums:-)
The quote" Many kinds of fish can actually see color. Some can see at least 24 different shades of color. Night feeders such as walleye and crappie trade good color vision for the ability to see well when there is not much light. "
Like I said, just my opinion and I could be wrong. Phill Great post!
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Re: Crappie Experts!! I need some help
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03/03/15 08:50 PM
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benp
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That was very informative! thank you so much for sharing!
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Re: Crappie Experts!! I need some help
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03/03/15 08:51 PM
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Joe Slab
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Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. 
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Re: Crappie Experts!! I need some help
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03/03/15 08:53 PM
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