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Re: The Future of Reservoir Expansion in Texas [Re: Alex Finch] #10275758 09/11/14 04:52 PM
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Is that a big above ground pool? Jeff Foxworthy approves.

I wonder when desalination plants will finally be put to good use and our lakes won't be the primary water source for consumption.

The technology is already is in use in many parts of the world.


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Re: The Future of Reservoir Expansion in Texas [Re: Alex Finch] #10275780 09/11/14 05:01 PM
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Re: The Future of Reservoir Expansion in Texas [Re: Alex Finch] #10275871 09/11/14 05:32 PM
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What's the hold up with Lake Columbia? Seems hard to find any current information on any of the planned lakes.

http://www.anra.org/divisions/reservoirs/columbia/


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Re: The Future of Reservoir Expansion in Texas [Re: Alex Finch] #10276229 09/11/14 07:19 PM
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They are going to need about 4 more in east Tx to supply the DFW area.

Re: The Future of Reservoir Expansion in Texas [Re: Alex Finch] #10276341 09/11/14 08:04 PM
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"Scheduled to be complete in 2017"?? A project that large that is still in the planning stages in the end of 2014 and being built by the state? Want to bet on that completion date? :-)

Re: The Future of Reservoir Expansion in Texas [Re: Alex Finch] #10276460 09/11/14 08:39 PM
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We all saw the news stories about the historic rains in the Southwest and around Las Vegas, right? When I checked the level at Lake Mead a day or two ago it was at its lowest level ever and still falling. What a shame that apparently none of that water flowing through the streets along the strip was diverted to the giant lake 30 miles away.

Re: The Future of Reservoir Expansion in Texas [Re: bigfishtx] #10279161 09/12/14 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: bigfishtx
Is that a big above ground pool? Jeff Foxworthy approves.

I wonder when desalination plants will finally be put to good use and our lakes won't be the primary water source for consumption.

The technology is already is in use in many parts of the world.

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Re: The Future of Reservoir Expansion in Texas [Re: Alex Finch] #10279722 09/13/14 02:00 AM
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Those proposed lakes are not very aesthetically pleasing to the eye. They probably will be an improvement in efficiencies. I hope good fishing freshwater is always available but it is increasingly being looked at for human consumption even if it is via agriculture.

The water issue is forcing the American people to take a serious look at how we make choices. Anybody have any idea how much water it takes to get on 16 oz. T-bone on the table ? It's an incredible amount.

Re: The Future of Reservoir Expansion in Texas [Re: Fishbreeder] #10279838 09/13/14 02:52 AM
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I understand not everybody eats rice, however, I do believe that the extremely vast majority of those Homo Sapiens which remain cognizant and corporeal eat something, and that "If you eat, you are involved in agriculture."

To wit, to eat on the scale we must (with so many folks that live in the city and do nothing more than shuffle electrons about a screen) you must farm. Rice farming being water intensive, and yet, not nearly so much as say, having a carpetgrass front yard, or a nice place to play golf, which are among the greatest consumptive use of waters diverted to municipalities, especially in drier areas of Texas, like, but certainly not limited to, Austin, San Antonio, or Dallas. I do understand the need for something other than an ergonomic seat and screen for respite, but also that for the most part, humans can't eat grass. A nice xeriscape with a low consumptive water feature such as a small pond for birds and wildlife calms me as well as mowing the yard.

Remembering as well, the Highland Lakes, some of them anyhow, were expressly built for the irrigation of areas downstream for the purpose of high value food production. Not to water rich folks' lawns.

Saying all that, I do favor the construction of "off-channel reservoirs" especially if they can be built in less ecologically sensitive areas than the bottomland hardwood forests typically covered up by on channel reservoirs. If that helps keep the Texas playground known as the Highland Lakes, full, well I like to go play there myself.

There are many such reservoirs in my area (Brazoria County), my fish hatchery and fishing club consists of many such, and I manage many such from less than 1, to well over 1000, acres. They do not have to be featureless bowls as that picture above depicts. Here is a google earth map of one such I made from a bowl to a bass lake....cut and paste to your browser....

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Danbury,+TX/@29.1984547,-95.2866148,906m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x8640612edd161765:0xcfe44277f6d149a7

Now if you scroll about the area, you can see many, many off-channel reservoirs with the creek/bayou channel winding between them. Some are right by the channel, others, like the above are fed by long canals and can be a considerable distance from the channel. I rebuilt most you can find around the town of Danbury at one point or another, to make bowls into a fishing lakes.



I eat rice anytime I feel like it, but I won't eat Texas rice. I know a little something about agriculture too, as my family farms 5K acres of dryland cotton and sorghum in South TX. That being said, I just have to call you out... Have you been to Austin lately? There's not very many "carpetgrass" lawns, and those that do have green lawns are paying about 2,500% more for their water than your average rice farmer. You Brazoria county folks love to talk about green lawns and golf courses in the big ciy, while you don't mention anything about how in 2011 (the driest year in Central TX history), the rice farmers took enough water out of the lakes to supply all of Austin for over 3 years. It's a fact that rice irrigation has decimated the Highland lakes, not municipal use.

BTW, the Highland lakes were not "expressly built for irrigation". They were built primarily for flood control and power generation.

The Highland lakes aren't much of a playground when you can't even launch a boat because all the water has been squandered by Brazoria county fat cats.

From Austin American Statesman:

In 2011, Austin consumed just under 32,000 acre-feet of water from the reservoirs for outdoor uses, and averaged 15,000 acre-feet per year since 2008, according to LCRA figures. That compares with 433,251 acre-feet from the reservoirs used by the rice farmers in 2011, 182,200 acre-feet the farmers used in 2010, 367,420 acre-feet in 2009 and 363,000 acre-feet in 2008. “Lawn watering versus rice farming is just a false comparison,”


Also, I've fished Lakes of Danbury, and they sucked.

Re: The Future of Reservoir Expansion in Texas [Re: CoastalBent] #10279944 09/13/14 04:02 AM
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I eat rice anytime I feel like it, but I won't eat Texas rice.


Why?


I think Douget Rice is an excellent product. http://www.doguets.com/index.htm







What's rice without some roux?


Have to admit Jasmine rice is a favorite.


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Wish they'd build this Lake Columbia north of Nacogdoches.


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Re: The Future of Reservoir Expansion in Texas [Re: RayBob] #10279997 09/13/14 05:41 AM
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I eat rice anytime I feel like it, but I won't eat Texas rice.


Why?




Well, mostly because of the water waste, but also because of the arsenic.

Re: The Future of Reservoir Expansion in Texas [Re: RayBob] #10280069 09/13/14 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted By: CoastalBent


I eat rice anytime I feel like it, but I won't eat Texas rice.


Why?


I think Douget Rice is an excellent product. http://www.doguets.com/index.htm







What's rice without some roux?


Have to admit Jasmine rice is a favorite.


That looks like the Christmas gift basket that I get from one of the grass farms I buy from. The owner of the grass farm is related to the Doguets. Good stuff.


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