absurd to the idiots and/or non-Patriots. Personally, I'm very proud of the United States, there are things I don't like and vote accordingly, but I support this country. If you don't, leave.

I guess our founding fathers were idiots and/or non-Patriots

find a new land, find a new government, that is different. if you are living within the United States, a United States Citizen, and receiving any benefits funded from tax dollars, then it is your American duty to pay 100% of all taxes due. If not, you are no better than meth head scum stealing things from others.

See, it's like watching NASCAR hoping for a wreck or watching a gator hunter get his hand bit off. We went from getting an update about the efforts to raise world class bass in Texas to questioning patriotism to comparing someone to a meth head scum. You just never know what you might see next on the TFF...it is definitely entertaining to say the least.

Start a new thread. Whack this one.

Your argument is solely based on the premise that it is our duty to obey laws completely, just because they are the law. This goes against everything that I stand for as an American. I'm not advocating not paying taxes, but to say that we should just stand idly by and accept whatever the government tells us because it is our patriotic duty is fundamentally different than the mindset that our founding fathers had, and the mindset that I have. Just because they had an ocean between them and their intrusive government doesn't mean they would stand for an intrusive government in Washington D.C.

Rob never said anything about standing idly by. He said "do everything you can in your power to change the laws."

Now you kids quit arguing over subjects unrelated to the OP's thread, or Dr. Schwarz may never come back!

thank you man, maybe he missed that 2nd part.



I think wires got crossed. trust me, I hate taxes, I'm paying a multiple of what I feel my fair share is, but it is my duty to pay them 100% until the laws change. while I pay all my taxes, I'm also part of groups like Americans For Fair Taxation and Club for Growth. I also vote for people I think will make the changes I want.

sorry, back off this tangent.

Would doing everything in your power to change a law include breaking it to make a point? Like not getting up from your seat on a bus... Or dumping tea into the harbor... I guess those people are no better than meth heads and not patriotic.

But back on topic, I support the decision to sell or donate the fingerling to La Perla. TPWD benefits from this in many ways at a minimal cost. The scientific research gained from studying the success or failure of the extreme measures that La Perla has gone through will be more beneficial in the long run by far than any impact that those fingerling would have had by being released directly into a public lake.

I didn't miss anything.

I personally am Thankful for his time and effort to keep us up-dated! I regret the actions/words from some on this Post but it is their right, I hope that he and Jordon will not be discouraged in the near future!

Y'all have tried to spin this thread in a direction that never ends, politics!


Back to Dr. Schwarz's project,

Thanks for the updates, please keep us posted on your progress.

This thread has continued to get goofier every day! If some dude wants to invest his money in a body of water in hopes that he may have created a bass world unlike any other - why the crazy amount of judgement? Thanks for your interest in the sport!

Money is king - if you don't have it the share a linker sat fork and Athens and so many other lakes are free to catch - Go Catch Em!

Ok guys, I am going to try and answer all of your questions as well as I can, and I am going to start with you Horseplay, because I owe you an apology. When I went back and reread my opening of this thread to tell everyone what we had done, I realized it was not clear in fact if the fry had been purchased by me or not, so my bad on that.

I did not pay for the fry. I did not receive them out of favoritism, cronyism, political connections, loyalty, friendship, or any other reason related to pay back for something I may have done in the past. I am not some rich guy. I did not receive them for anything I promised to do in the future, other than agreeing to turn over control to Texas of the new lake I was building for myself. I was sent the fry because Allen Forshage became convinced by what he saw that the interests of the State of Texas, and the bass fishermen of Texas would be furthered and enhanced by entering into a cooperative relationship with me on a new lake I was in the process of building for myself, Jalisco. It was as simple as that. He was and is convinced that the potential gains and rewards back to the State and to bass fishermen will far out way the costs of doing it.

Allen has invested his life into the SAL program. He is driven to make a difference for the fishermen of Texas and for the State through the achievements of the program. It is his purpose in life and his passion. His legacy will be forever attached to and dependent upon the programs success or failure, and as you know, there have been many successes. However, after the great start for the program, the momentum has slowed over the past ten years. He was and is convinced that Jalisco can supply a needed shot in the arm. It is not in his best interests to do something stupid, self serving, for special interests, or that will not potentially benefit all.

As for me, the decision was not easy. Yes Horseplay I can eventually sell fishing trips there, but Dude, 15 years is a LONG time, especially for a guy my age. By the time it is up, I will long since have either survived and held onto the ranch and projects, or failed. Any income I could generate by then from the fish will be too late to save the ranch if my income declines for any reason. Another place I made a mistake was on my age calculation I put down, because I won't be almost 70 when the 15 is over, but 80!! The cost of finishing the building of the Jalisco project and the costs of doing all that I do out there will not be easy to pull off, and if something happens to me physically to where I can't work, I will not be able to hold onto the ranch. Yes I can sell the property, but the new owner will have to live up to the contract. The revenue that I stood to generate by sticking with my plan as talked about in the Bassmaster article, had I kept control of Jalisco and stocked it with my own pure Floridas I have access to, would have really helped and provided a safety net.

The problem is, I have a sickness. I am driven to do things that have never been done before. I can't help it. I am not normal. Whether it involves my oral surgery practice, my deer program, or the bass lakes, I have to push. If I can see a mountain to climb, I have to try, even if it makes no rational or economic sense. So.....I signed it.

And now, in honor of Horseplay who asked for it, here is my contract that I signed and then sent to the State. I could not find my copy of the one they faxed back with their signature, but trust me, this is it, and Allen has given his blessings to me to release it.

Next, I will talk about what it means, and answer more questions.
Thanks,
Gary