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Re: BEST KAYAK FOR BTB [Re: btbyakn] #10023649 05/30/14 01:04 PM
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Re: BEST KAYAK FOR BTB [Re: SleepingTiger] #10023757 05/30/14 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: SleepingTiger

Definitely made for riding the wind. They aren't tech a kayak though and
they are terrible in the surf cheers

This is a reason why many AI anglers use the marinas or channels to launch rather than launching from the beach. I'm not a expert, I just play one on TV rolfmao

Seriously though they do not handle the surf very well. #1 reason I have not
added one to the fleet. If you haven't been in one yet your missing out because they are FUN!!!woot


Re: BEST KAYAK FOR BTB [Re: paddling oar's] #10023894 05/30/14 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: paddling oar's
Have to say the slayer propel was far more stable...


Ah, the Slayer...
While stability is a quality of the Native Slayer it has no rocker. Can you fish out of just about any "wide kayak" comfortably AFTER you get through the surf. YES, IF ITS A SMOOTH DAY, SURE. But the title of this thread is
"BEST KAYAK FOR BTB. The Native Slayer & WS Ride 135 were not really designed for surf.

If your looking to ride over the surf to get BTB,
1. Get you a yak that has a high weight capacity (500lbs +) & don't over load it.
2: Get you a yak with a good rocker so you don't plow into the surf & fill up your yak with water.

* Now when your yak fills with water going through a good wave you need it out of the yak as quickly as possible before the next wave hits you. ONE advantage the Native Slayer has over every kayak on the market to date is its NINE-TEN over sized scupper holes. These oversized holes WILL allow the water to drain quickly! If your planning on getting a slayer for BTB make sure you get the cover for the front well Area. This will greatly improve its performance in the surf.
here is a side by side comparison for ya.

RIDE 135


NATIVE SLAYER
there are 2 more holes under the seat

Cobra Fish n Dives & OK Big Games are 2 Kayaks that r specifically designed to handle surf well and they do.


Re: BEST KAYAK FOR BTB [Re: Fish ZoMbiE] #10023929 05/30/14 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: Fish ZoMbiE
Originally Posted By: paddling oar's
Have to say the slayer propel was far more stable...


Ah, the Slayer...
While stability is a quality of the Native Slayer it has no rocker. Can you fish out of just about any "wide kayak" comfortably AFTER you get through the surf. YES, IF ITS A SMOOTH DAY, SURE. But the title of this thread is
"BEST KAYAK FOR BTB. The Native Slayer & WS Ride 135 were not really designed for surf.

If your looking to ride over the surf to get BTB,
1. Get you a yak that has a high weight capacity (500lbs) & don't over load it.
2: Get you a yak with a good rocker so you don't plow into the surf & fill up with water.

* Now when your yak fills with water going through a good wave you need it out of the yak as quickly as possible before the next wave hits you. ONE advantage the Native Slayer has over every kayak on the market to date is is its NINE-TEN over sized scupper holes. These oversized holes WILL allow the water to drain quickly! If your planning on getting a slayer for BTB make sure you get the cover for the front well. This will greatly improve its performance in the surf.
here is a side by side comparison for ya.

RIDE 135


NATIVE SLAYER
there are 2 more holes under the seat

Cobra Fish n Dives & OK Big Games are 2 Kayaks that r specifically designed to handle surf well and they do.
I just wanted to ruffle your feathers. wink

Re: BEST KAYAK FOR BTB [Re: btbyakn] #10023937 05/30/14 02:32 PM
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Oh and I made it out of surf just fine while some of the so called btb yaks had a hard time...just saying.

Re: BEST KAYAK FOR BTB [Re: paddling oar's] #10023972 05/30/14 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: paddling oar's
Oh and I made it out of surf just fine while some of the so called btb yaks had a hard time...just saying.


Did you blow chunks again too? troll u troll
As hardcore as you r, I knew you wouldn't let a little puke stop you frkazoid




Re: BEST KAYAK FOR BTB [Re: btbyakn] #10023984 05/30/14 02:44 PM
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Nope dremamine was my friend. This year was far more enjoyable. I stayed out there for 5 yours each day.

Re: BEST KAYAK FOR BTB [Re: btbyakn] #10023996 05/30/14 02:48 PM
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Sorry for hijacking the thread. Carry on..and dont listen to anything I said...haha

Re: BEST KAYAK FOR BTB [Re: paddling oar's] #10024040 05/30/14 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: paddling oar's
Sorry for hijacking the thread. Carry on..and dont listen to anything I said...haha


Trolly,

Before u go, u must tell us how many scupper holes your Slayer has?



I cannot sleep until this mystery has been solved gumshoe


Re: BEST KAYAK FOR BTB [Re: Fish ZoMbiE] #10024147 05/30/14 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: Fish ZoMbiE
the drifter is a good all around boat IMO. shallow creeks/rivers/ponds/lakes/BTB/Bays. it doesnt excel at any of them but handles them all well.

owned the fish n dive, drifter & currently the x-factor.

these 3 all handle the surf well. best was the fish n dive by far due to the bow, sterns & side hull design. good for surf & re-entry! not much leg room though frown


most big guys will tell u that the ok biggame is also a winner for BTB! believe FishinPreacher has 1 & can speek from experience.

the drifter & x-factor so far have been the nicest to paddle distance wise for me anyways. the fish n dive is NOT a glider though. unlike the rest, it wants to stop as soon as you stop paddling!!!

the x-factor is the most comfy of these IMO. with a little creative rigging, your drifter can handle more behind the seat CLICK HERE to see . if lengths not an issue for u, you might look at a trident 15. those are nice cruisers for open water IMO & i thinking OK has made some nice modifications to some of there models wink

nucanoe is also another BTB option. it can handle a heavy payload and paddles surprisingly well for a wide boat.


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w the OK 15' handles in the surf - sorry
but, Daveg99 might know popcorn


Going back about 8 to 9 years the guys that fish BTB used a vast range of yaks because it lines up like Ford, Chevrolet and Dodge.
I do prefer the Ocean Kayak Big Game but I noticed that the Cobra FND was very stable in the offshore situation.
I can add that now days the yak builders are building the yaks the way us paddlers have asked them so the market is broader than ever.
What I and other newbys did was go along with the pack at High Island and watch and listen and learn. With good weather and a lot of buddies you'll be okay no matter what you paddle. Soon you will reach your own conclusion as to what you want.


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Re: BEST KAYAK FOR BTB [Re: btbyakn] #10024557 05/30/14 06:35 PM
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Acoustic Tennis Jackson Cuda does really good.

Re: BEST KAYAK FOR BTB [Re: Sunup] #10024634 05/30/14 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: ChugR
Acoustic Tennis Jackson Cuda does really good.


Sharkbait fishes in a Tarpon 100. At some point skill can make a boat look more stable than it is.

This may also be an option


Re: BEST KAYAK FOR BTB [Re: btbyakn] #10024724 05/30/14 07:48 PM
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I had no problem getting through Florida surf in a Hobie Revolution

Re: BEST KAYAK FOR BTB [Re: PayneFish] #10024729 05/30/14 07:49 PM
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Im going to give the Mariner a shot at some point this summer......

Re: BEST KAYAK FOR BTB [Re: PayneFish] #10025031 05/30/14 09:54 PM
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true dat, he got mad skillz
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Originally Posted By: ChugR
Acoustic Tennis Jackson Cuda does really good.


Sharkbait fishes in a Tarpon 100. At some point skill can make a boat look more stable than it is.

This may also be an option


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