Hey, I can whip a few up for you. Check your PM inbox.

Shameless self promotion! Where's a moderator when you need one?

Just kidding, Robin. Don't forget the kickbacks for George and I.

i am shamelessly administering myself!

Come see the violence inherent in the system. HELP! HELP! Robin's bein' oppressed!

HEY! HEY! HEY! This is a FAMILY SITE! Behave yourself!

(And stay outta that corner!)

Kirk

The thought of Robin providing himself with adult supervision is kinda scary.

I do the same thing except with a bimini twist underneath the knot I use to slip the reel through, apparently your suppose to double you backing for the loop to loop when using gel spun otherwise the backing will cut right through the fly line. Or at least that's what I've been told.

Will these work!? I just found them and they look pretty good! http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?...subcat_id=24333

I would NOT trust those. I haven't specifically seen the Orvis braided loops, but the others that I have seen that were commercially sold were only single catch loops. One of those came apart in my hands just looking at it. That's not something I want to rely on in the heat of fishy battle.

If you decide to go the braided loops route, hit up Robin. He'll treat you right and get you something that will work. They're also extremely easy to build yourself, if you're so inclined.

Ok, thanks for the heads up. How can I tell the differenece between double and single catch? I was just wondering about those though,
I found e'm while looking through the orvis clearance page.

if they are commercially made, they are single catch

get some from
Robin or Dusty or somebody else that makes them...NOTE: I use the commercially made ones (cortland last time) and have never had a problem

I used a commercial one and had to pick up my 7 wt to retrieve my leader and fly that my 5 wt delivered to the lake sans fly line. I made the mistake of following the instructions and using the heat shrink that came with them. After I got it all back together I nail knotted some mono on the line end of the loop and haven't had an issue since.

Easy to "spin" bobbin and thread around frayed end and secure - coat with goop or pliobond.
Can do it quicker than explain it ...

Basically the way the whole deal works is that the braided mono acts like a Chinese finger trap. When you push inward on it, that causes the braids to open, when you pull the ends away from each other, that closes the braids tightly. Single or double catch refers to the number of times that the mono is pulled through itself to form the loop. A double catch loop still only has one loop, it's just pulled back through itself twice, meaning that there is less chance of it working its way back through the braid. This too is one of those easier to see than explain deals.

Here's a link with some pictures that may explain it better.
http://www.flyfishsaltwaters.com/building_braided_loops.htm

In any conversation regarding fly line/leader connections Joe Robinson's Zap-A-Gap splice needs to be in the mix. Granted, it's not something you do on the water, but it is the smoothest and incredibly strong connection between the two.

Remember the blood knot if you need to change leaders on the water - easiest, lightest and smoothest connection between to butt sections (large diameter line).