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Re: Evinrude vs. Yamaha... Now I know what motor im getting
[Re: C-Man]
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04/25/11 03:26 PM
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nethingthatbites
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My wife like the big 'ol Johnson so why she with you
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Re: Evinrude vs. Yamaha... Now I know what motor im getting
[Re: nethingthatbites]
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04/25/11 03:36 PM
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SKEETER151
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Well the way things look in the future the 2-stroke is going to be phased out and 4-strokes are our future engines. I don't mind the loss in power if it means I can get more fuel economy and the engine is RELIABLE. My dad and I had a Merc Verado 225 for a while on a 24 foot bay boat and we hated it. It would never run right and would stay in the shop more than in the water. It would go into safe mode and only run at idle way too much. Safe mode to Mercury is DANGER mode for saltwater when your in 4-6 foot seas!!
We finally told the dealer to replace it with a 2-stroke and give us the credit for store items and service. Funny thing is we had almsot $6000 in store credit from the swap and we got to fish all we wanted with that 2-stroke and no issues!!
I will say the 2-stroke is a dirty engine but man do they run like bat out of heck...But that SHO engine has really gotten it right if they just tweek it a little bit more and make it a bit more affordable and reliable engine. Im keeping my eye on that technology for my future needs.
IMO- A supercharged engine is too risky for outboards. Too much engineering to go wrong on the water.
Land was created to provide a place for boats to visit!! It is when pirates count their booty that they become mere thieves. ARRRRRR....
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Re: Evinrude vs. Yamaha... Now I know what motor im getting
[Re: SKEETER151]
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04/25/11 06:54 PM
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KickerFish29
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Looks dangerous if you ask me !!!!
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Re: Evinrude vs. Yamaha... Now I know what motor im getting
[Re: KickerFish29]
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04/25/11 07:07 PM
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redchevy
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Looks like a good way to ruin a nice boat
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Re: Evinrude vs. Yamaha... Now I know what motor im getting
[Re: ChanceHuiet]
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04/25/11 09:22 PM
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MeatWad
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Sorry catfish your wrong on that one. The sho outpermorms the hpdi in every aspect. Its faster, lighter, and drinks way way less gas and oil. No offense to you bud just clarifying. Do you know know what SHO and HO mean in regard to hp rating ICOMIA standards? If you did than there is no way that you can say that one will out perform another. No four stroke will ever outperform the same hp two stroke. Its just the way it is. I dont have anything against four strokes, nor do I have something for two strokes. They each have their places. Like I said, its a diesel vs gas pickup thing.
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Re: Evinrude vs. Yamaha... Now I know what motor im getting
[Re: MeatWad]
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04/25/11 10:17 PM
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rxkid2001
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Pretty soon the 2 stroke's place will be the junkyard. The way the epa is pushing things I can see a day with no 2 strokes on the water, in my lifetime.
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Re: Evinrude vs. Yamaha... Now I know what motor im getting
[Re: rxkid2001]
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04/25/11 10:26 PM
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MeatWad
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Pretty soon the 2 stroke's place will be the junkyard. The way the epa is pushing things I can see a day with no 2 strokes on the water, in my lifetime. Its already hppening. Its illegal to sell a 2-stroke in California. Don't know about owning one there, but I was reading that some lakes out there have banned the use of two strokes on them.
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Re: Evinrude vs. Yamaha... Now I know what motor im getting
[Re: MeatWad]
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04/25/11 10:42 PM
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Pretty soon the 2 stroke's place will be the junkyard. The way the epa is pushing things I can see a day with no 2 strokes on the water, in my lifetime. Its already hppening. Its illegal to sell a 2-stroke in California. Don't know about owning one there, but I was reading that some lakes out there have banned the use of two strokes on them. So what? I'm never going to live in LALA land. Right now, the EPA has no enforcement in this arena. And in case you guys haven't been paying attention, the DI 2 strokes get about the same mileage and low emissions as the 4 strokes. You guys that keep repeating the ad copy for the SHO should check your facts. They ain't lighter than a good 2stroke, and they won't be without using incredibly expensive materials and tech. The SHO is a 4.2 liter engine. The Merc 250XS is a 3 liter engine. The SHO has about 5 times as many moving parts. As long as they are assembled by people, I won't buy one.
Artie ________________________________ Dad took me fishing when I was 10, and I've been pretty much hooked since. He went to be with God on August 14, 2012. I miss you, Dad.
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Re: Evinrude vs. Yamaha... Now I know what motor im getting
[Re: Bass Art]
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04/25/11 11:51 PM
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MeatWad
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So what? I'm never going to live in LALA land. Right now, the EPA has no enforcement in this arena. And in case you guys haven't been paying attention, the DI 2 strokes get about the same mileage and low emissions as the 4 strokes.
In case you havent noticed, as Calipornia goes, so goes the rest of the country. Look at all the emissions on cars. Get used to it. Neither one of us like it, but is just seems to be the way its going to be. Eco-Nazis are taking over or have taken over the car industry and now the marine industry.
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Re: Evinrude vs. Yamaha... Now I know what motor im getting
[Re: MeatWad]
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04/26/11 01:55 AM
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Well, that was true 10 years ago, but the rest of the country is starting to see what a disaster some of their policies are. We don't HAVE to follow them. They have proven how stupid they are year after year.
I didn't mean my comments like you took them, either. But that's the wonder of the net. Sorry.
Artie ________________________________ Dad took me fishing when I was 10, and I've been pretty much hooked since. He went to be with God on August 14, 2012. I miss you, Dad.
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Re: Evinrude vs. Yamaha... Now I know what motor im getting
[Re: Bass Art]
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04/26/11 02:21 AM
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Never thought to play tug of war with my boat.
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Re: Evinrude vs. Yamaha... Now I know what motor im getting
[Re: Bass Art]
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04/26/11 02:22 AM
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MeatWad
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Well, that was true 10 years ago, but the rest of the country is starting to see what a disaster some of their policies are. We don't HAVE to follow them. They have proven how stupid they are year after year.
I didn't mean my comments like you took them, either. But that's the wonder of the net. Sorry. I re-read my post and I sounded like kindofa dik, so I changed it. sorry.
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Re: Evinrude vs. Yamaha... Now I know what motor im getting
[Re: PaulGrapevine]
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04/26/11 02:23 AM
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MeatWad
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Never thought to play tug of war with my boat. Looks dangerous. Why would that guy keep pulling that boat until the other guy fell out? That looks extremely dangerous to do to somebody.
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Re: Evinrude vs. Yamaha... Now I know what motor im getting
[Re: MeatWad]
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04/26/11 02:39 AM
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The stunt was meant to get us talking about their product. And here we are....
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Re: Evinrude vs. Yamaha... Now I know what motor im getting
[Re: B_Rod]
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04/26/11 02:53 AM
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PHFH
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The stunt was meant to get us talking about their product. And here we are.... x2
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