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Re: Leave for Yellowstone today. [Re: butch sanders] #12800770 06/21/18 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: butch sanders
why haven't lions wiped out all the prey in Africa?

no way in he77 wolf's wiped out the moose population in Wyoming
a moose would kick their A


I've seen video of Wolves pulling down Elk and Bison in the deep winter snow.
I'm sure Moose fare no better.

Here is a theory for you, For generations , Mother Moose did not have to deal with
wolves. Now they are re-introduced , today's Moms do not have the instincts to battle wolves.

Calf mortality has increased dramatically .

your mileage may vary

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Re: Leave for Yellowstone today. [Re: Mo] #12800954 06/21/18 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mo
Originally Posted By: butch sanders
why haven't lions wiped out all the prey in Africa?

no way in he77 wolf's wiped out the moose population in Wyoming
a moose would kick their A


I've seen video of Wolves pulling down Elk and Bison in the deep winter snow.
I'm sure Moose fare no better.

Here is a theory for you, For generations , Mother Moose did not have to deal with
wolves. Now they are re-introduced , today's Moms do not have the instincts to battle wolves.

Calf mortality has increased dramatically .

your mileage may vary

Mo


i will buy that theory

Re: Leave for Yellowstone today. [Re: RATZ] #12801253 06/22/18 04:04 AM
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The human population of Wyoming has fell by about 5,000 people since 2014. That could be due to crude oil prices, but it was probably wolves.

Re: Leave for Yellowstone today. [Re: RATZ] #12802091 06/22/18 09:08 PM
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Re: Leave for Yellowstone today. [Re: RATZ] #12802096 06/22/18 09:12 PM
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Re: Leave for Yellowstone today. [Re: Mo] #12802545 06/23/18 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mo
Originally Posted By: butch sanders
why haven't lions wiped out all the prey in Africa?

no way in he77 wolf's wiped out the moose population in Wyoming
a moose would kick their A


I've seen video of Wolves pulling down Elk and Bison in the deep winter snow.
I'm sure Moose fare no better.

Here is a theory for you, For generations , Mother Moose did not have to deal with
wolves. Now they are re-introduced , today's Moms do not have the instincts to battle wolves.

Calf mortality has increased dramatically .

your mileage may vary

Mo


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Re: Leave for Yellowstone today. [Re: RATZ] #12802581 06/23/18 03:32 AM
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I think support the Wolves over the Moose. I'd like to hear the case to support the Moose.


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Re: Leave for Yellowstone today. [Re: wytex] #12802585 06/23/18 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted By: wytex
I wouldn't say all of the moose herds are down 50 %, but some are definitely struggling.


You may be right the Moose may not be down that far yet but the Elk definatly are. The herds were about 16,000 elk in the Yellowstone area. I think the last I saw they are down to about 8,000 now.

Re: Leave for Yellowstone today. [Re: Gusick] #12802589 06/23/18 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted By: Gusick
Moose populations have declined all over North America and nobody knows why. It's probably not wolves.



You don't live in Wyoming and do not know what you are talking about. The Wolves are destroying the herds up here. Elk, Moose or any other animals that have young. They eat the young and no repopulation. The herds are way down in the north west due to wolves

Re: Leave for Yellowstone today. [Re: RATZ] #12802598 06/23/18 03:51 AM
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Wolves are awesome

Re: Leave for Yellowstone today. [Re: butch sanders] #12802600 06/23/18 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: butch sanders
how could wolf's have any affect on the moose population?


Wolves are taking the herds out by killing the young. They are destroying the elk herds for sure. They are hurting any wild life that have young up in the north west by killing the young. The Wyoming game and fish have video of wolves killing for the fun of it and leaving the animals laying. They like to take down cow elk with calves still inside and tearing the cow open and pulling the young out and leaving both to die. Wolves are the only animal more vicious then a human for killing for the fun and training the young wolves to kill. Their use to be youtube videos of the wolves killing like that.

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Re: Leave for Yellowstone today. [Re: Westside.] #12802610 06/23/18 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted By: Westside.
Wolves are awesome


This is what Liberals who do not live in the back country of the North West say. They have no idea of what really goes on. Wolves should be killed out like before. They serve no good purpose in the wild. The wolves they reintroduce or not the size wolves that once roamed wild in the Rockies. They are the big northern wolves. They are bigger then the rocky mountain wolves that once lived here. These little dogs are usually over 200 pounds and have huge feet. They are big enough to take down full grown elf or what ever if they chose to hunt them.

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Holy cow.

Re: Leave for Yellowstone today. [Re: 921 Phoenix] #12802846 06/23/18 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: 921 Phoenix
Originally Posted By: Westside.
Wolves are awesome


This is what Liberals who do not live in the back country of the North West say. They have no idea of what really goes on. Wolves should be killed out like before. They serve no good purpose in the wild. The wolves they reintroduce or not the size wolves that once roamed wild in the Rockies. They are the big northern wolves. They are bigger then the rocky mountain wolves that once lived here. These little dogs are usually over 200 pounds and have huge feet. They are big enough to take down full grown elf or what ever if they chose to hunt them.


You are much more perceptive than I am. When I dissected what Westside wrote, I just thought “Westside thinks wolves are awesome”.

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