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Re: Copolymer line [Re: timwins31] #10874852 05/27/15 12:30 PM
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P-Line CX Premium is a fluoro coated copolymer, best of both worlds without being brittle so no memory or knot issues.

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Re: Copolymer line [Re: BlaiseWeimer] #10874896 05/27/15 12:54 PM
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I use P-Line CXX and McCoys Mean Green for many applications. Both are very good copolymer lines. P-Line has a new one out called Voltage and the reviews on it are good. It is supposed to be as strong as the CXX but with less memory. It is not as sensitive as fluorocarbon line but it is good enough. CX Premium is good line also.

If you choose to go with P-Line CXX check the diameter of the line you are wanting, not the #test rating on the box. CXX is a lot thicker than CX-Premium when you compare the #test rating on the box.

As far as fluorocarbon lines go, I have had very good luck with Invizx. I mostly use 20,15, and 12.

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Re: Copolymer line [Re: BlaiseWeimer] #10874930 05/27/15 01:17 PM
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Keep in mind that there are different types of copolymer line; thus different copolymers might be better for different applications.

McCoy's Mean Green is silicone impregnated monofilament it floats
Silver Thread Line is made with polymerization of different nylon monomers it floats
Yo-Zuri Hybrid is molecularly bonded nylon (mono) and fluorocarbon it sinks
PLine CX and CXX are monofilaments with fluorocarbon silicone coating it sinks slowly


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Re: Copolymer line [Re: CCTX] #10874943 05/27/15 01:21 PM
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P-Line cx and cxx are not mono, they are coated copolymer lines

Re: Copolymer line [Re: BlaiseWeimer] #10875017 05/27/15 01:46 PM
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Pline is not a monomer of nylon, thus it is a copolymer. Pline is nylon (mono) blended with (polymerized with) a fluorocarbon/silicone coating.


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Re: Copolymer line [Re: BlaiseWeimer] #10875112 05/27/15 02:27 PM
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What CXX does everybody prefer? Clear Fluorescent or Crystal Clear? Thanks.

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I use the green 100% of the time. kind of a light green color, I like It a lot.

Re: Copolymer line [Re: Scott-12] #10875132 05/27/15 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: Scott-12
What CXX does everybody prefer? Clear Fluorescent or Crystal Clear? Thanks.


I use the moss green color actually. That stuff disappears in almost all water clarity.

Re: Copolymer line [Re: BlaiseWeimer] #10875371 05/27/15 03:45 PM
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The Holy Grail of fishing: finding the ultimate line.

Maybe lures would actually trump line, I suppose it would.

I wonder if within another technological cycle, they will find new copolymers that more than meet the needs for most fishing applications? If so, my guess is that fluorocarbon line is in big trouble . . . that it would be the line to suffer loss of market share.

One could fish copolymer straight up, or use the copolymer as a leader to braid.

Just a guess that mono is here to stay, braid too. Lots of these two line types of high quality and broad appeal.

Maybe this is the test for a copolymer that will make a big impact on fishing: One that can be used at fairly large sizes on spinning tackle. Not that you would, but as a primary criterion proving the line is supple. Of course, it will need to hold a knot, have great breaking strength and so forth.

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Re: Copolymer line [Re: senko9S] #10875489 05/27/15 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: senko9S
P-Line CX Premium is a fluoro coated copolymer, best of both worlds without being brittle so no memory or knot issues.

Been using P-line CX Premium for years. Great stuff. I love the blue fluorescent color - very easy to see line movement.


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Re: Copolymer line [Re: Marooned] #10875637 05/27/15 05:31 PM
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exactly

Re: Copolymer line [Re: BlaiseWeimer] #10875945 05/27/15 07:27 PM
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T Line copolymer line by Mason for over 20 years.

Low stretch, very limp and castable, great knot strength, good abrasion qualities, floats.

Fluoro no bueno.


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Re: Copolymer line [Re: reeltexan] #10876032 05/27/15 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: reeltexan

T Line copolymer line by Mason for over 20 years.

Low stretch, very limp and castable, great knot strength, good abrasion qualities, floats.

Fluoro no bueno.


???

Lets look at this... Copoly has, more stretch than floru. Remember when Kevin Short won that tourney on a square bill on the elite series, he spoke SPECIFICALLY about how the extra stretch that the co-poly he was using had let them get it better when the bite was finicky cause it stretched and you didnt pull it away from them as bad. It is is MAYBE a little more limp(I think this depends on the flouro you are comparing too) but it is generally thicker diameter for line size so if you compare line size to line size, I think it is nearly the same. Along the fact that it is thicker it takes longer to saw through it...

SO lets compare diameter not "ratings" ratings are marketing tools too... Go look at tackletours line reviews they explain it well.

So if we talk about line that is the same diameter I think floro is MORE abrasion resistant(it is harder GENERALLY), has LESS stretch, and imo the same handling characteristics. It sinks or floats or is neutral depending on specific companies combination of materials.

think what you will, but low stretch and low vis is the primary selling point of floro.

I have one use for co-poly C-rig leader with a braid main line. Stretch there helps a little on the hook up and the leader and braid don't tangle like a braid leader does (a braid LEADER is worthless IMO)
Other than that it is a pain and i don't mess with it. It is INCREDIBLY stretchy, you can't feel a jig for or t-rig for anything. I guess on a moving bait it is ok but I can't stand the stuff...


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Re: Copolymer line [Re: slshaneus] #10876062 05/27/15 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: slshaneus
i have gone to copoly, i use izorline, got rid of all the flouro, i was a invizx user but it stretches more than mono... and that was my reason for going to flouro was less stretch, but i was wrong.....for those who dont know the facts here ya go..... numbers on stretch strength etc...
http://www.tackletour.com/reviewfpiintro.html
http://www.tackletour.com/reviewfluorocarbontest.html
http://www.tackletour.com/reviewfluorocarbon2.html


Invisx was one of the FEW that was more than the mono compared too

Also if you keep reading line review the good people there actually say that in some cases the "real world" tests completely go against the way the lab tests seem to show. They straight up say this in one of the most recent line review articles lol

http://www.tackletour.com/reviewsunlineassassinfc.html

"However, what we've come to find since the debut of our fishing line performance indexes is that lab results don't necessarily correlate with on the water performance."

Like I said b4, they showed abrasion resistance to be mainly a quality of diameter of line. so companies that "underrate" thier line tend to show better abrasion resistance.

I also hate that tt hasn't tried some of the most poplular lines and most intersting... I want a tatsu review I would also like an inter company comparison of the qc of each line... compared all the way from 6lb to 25lb

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Re: Copolymer line [Re: BlaiseWeimer] #10877777 05/28/15 01:17 PM
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I am totally satisfied with Invizx fluorocarbon, P-Line CXX, CX Premium, and McCoys Mean Green.

They all work very well for me. I do my own "reality" line testing on the water.

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