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Re: Is Your Job Interesting?
[Re: grandbassslayer]
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01/15/25 05:52 PM
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Pat Goff
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In most operations you have sales, and you have processors. The processors believe they are critical. The sales guys know who feeds the tribe.
So the conflicts begin. Think of your organization like a cave man community. The hunters (sales) just want to go kill all the mammoths they can, drag it back to the cave and go hunt another one. Oh but wait, the processors all met and decided that mammoth could only be brought in after it's been properly dressed, all the meat is cut up and packaged and all they have to do is eat and get fat.
Which one are you?
I get the sentiment- it’s viewed that way by everyone- regardless of the part of the business they are in. In reality most of the parts are need to function. Sure you have some total [censored] departments. But sales can’t sell something if there is nothing made to sell, etc. Sobering truth. I can sell moose milk. Your most excellent mouse trap sits on the shelf until someone sells it.
Pat Goff Seadrift TX
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Re: Is Your Job Interesting?
[Re: Douglas J]
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01/15/25 05:55 PM
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Mark Perry
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We always joke about that. You can leave $100 bill on the kitchen table and it wil go untouched for weeks unrmtil someone tracks down who it belongs to. You leave a candy bar on the same table and it's gone in minutes and the offender will lie till the very end knowing damn well they ate it.... You are for sure it's changing. I hope I'm long gone from it all when this new wave of "hitting it hard from the yard" and no search BS hits Texas. We all knew the job was dangerous when we took it but the nonsense of not being willing to save people is dumb. It's hard to stomach the lack of aggressive tactics that seem to be more common in other places.
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Re: Is Your Job Interesting?
[Re: TBassYates]
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01/15/25 06:10 PM
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nfhbass
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Aspects of my career were fun. This is me exiting a twin otter on my way to a fire in Utah. This is my rookie year, I had no idea what i was doing, haha. Great friendships made, I miss it. Now I’m bored. Doing a “real” jobs as we used to call them. Where I can actually make money.
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Re: Is Your Job Interesting?
[Re: Mark Perry]
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01/15/25 06:17 PM
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Douglas J
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We always joke about that. You can leave $100 bill on the kitchen table and it wil go untouched for weeks unrmtil someone tracks down who it belongs to. You leave a candy bar on the same table and it's gone in minutes and the offender will lie till the very end knowing damn well they ate it.... You are for sure it's changing. I hope I'm long gone from it all when this new wave of "hitting it hard from the yard" and no search BS hits Texas. We all knew the job was dangerous when we took it but the nonsense of not being willing to save people is dumb. It's hard to stomach the lack of aggressive tactics that seem to be more common in other places. The first 20 years of my career we fought fire very aggressively and from the inside out 90% of the time. I worked in stations for the majority of my career that averaged 50+ first in working fires per shift per year. We were very good at what we did and we knew it. The trust we had in each other is not understood unless you have done something similar in an environment that depending on one another will save your butt. That is all I really miss and the shenanigans around the station. I was blessed that my bat chief and the ones we answered with were still old school. One of them was in his 80's when he retired and he chiefed the first and last fires of my career. So I never got the whole lot of the yard bird social media firefighting, where those in command seem to have the first priority of trying to figure a way to go defensive on every fire. Fires go out so much easier from the inside if possible. It's funny how the beta attitude of the world shapes the tactics and strategies of fire fighting. My favorite question to ask rookies the last 10 years or so was if they had ever been in a fist fight and 75% of them said no. A lot of the world is much softer than it was in the past. Some of that is good for society, but it is not good for the fire service.
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Re: Is Your Job Interesting?
[Re: nfhbass]
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01/15/25 06:19 PM
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Douglas J
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Aspects of my career were fun. This is me exiting a twin otter on my way to a fire in Utah. This is my rookie year, I had no idea what i was doing, haha. Great friendships made, I miss it. Now I’m bored. Doing a “real” jobs as we used to call them. Where I can actually make money. Insane!! Much respect to you crazy azz jumpers
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Re: Is Your Job Interesting?
[Re: Douglas J]
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01/15/25 06:19 PM
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Mark Perry
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We always joke about that. You can leave $100 bill on the kitchen table and it wil go untouched for weeks unrmtil someone tracks down who it belongs to. You leave a candy bar on the same table and it's gone in minutes and the offender will lie till the very end knowing damn well they ate it.... You are for sure it's changing. I hope I'm long gone from it all when this new wave of "hitting it hard from the yard" and no search BS hits Texas. We all knew the job was dangerous when we took it but the nonsense of not being willing to save people is dumb. It's hard to stomach the lack of aggressive tactics that seem to be more common in other places. The first 20 years of my career we fought fire very aggressively and from the inside out 90% of the time. I worked in stations for the majority of my career that averaged 50+ first in working fires per shift per year. We were very good at what we did and we knew it. The trust we had in each other is not understood unless you have done something similar in an environment that depending on one another will save your butt. That is all I really miss and the shenanigans around the station. I was blessed that my bat chief and the ones we answered with were still old school. One of them was in his 80's when he retired and he chiefed the first and last fires of my career. So I never got the whole lot of the yard bird social media firefighting, where those in command seem to have the first priority of trying to figure a way to go defensive on every fire. Fires go out so much easier from the inside if possible. It's funny how the beta attitude of the world shapes the tactics and strategies of fire fighting. My favorite question to ask rookies the last 10 years or so was if they had ever been in a fist fight and 75% of them said no. A lot of the world is much softer than it was in the past. Some of that is good for society, but it is not good for the fire service. 100%
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Re: Is Your Job Interesting?
[Re: Douglas J]
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01/15/25 08:00 PM
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ridinbulls48
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that looks like matt muncrief on the bottom right on the next to last picture lol
there's always been groups of people that could never see eye to eye, i bet if they had a chance to sit down and talk they would realize they had alot in common--chris ledoux
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Re: Is Your Job Interesting?
[Re: ridinbulls48]
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01/15/25 10:25 PM
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Douglas J
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that looks like matt muncrief on the bottom right on the next to last picture lol that is weedeater!! Worked together for a few years you must be from combine
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Re: Is Your Job Interesting?
[Re: TBassYates]
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01/15/25 11:52 PM
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deerfeeder
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My hat is off to firemen. I couldn't do it. A 10 foot ladder, maybe, was a volunteer in Presidio, and just took care of the pumps when the other folks were at the business end of the hose.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae -- "Not for self, but for country."
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Re: Is Your Job Interesting?
[Re: nfhbass]
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01/16/25 12:43 AM
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butch sanders
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Aspects of my career were fun. This is me exiting a twin otter on my way to a fire in Utah. This is my rookie year, I had no idea what i was doing, haha. Great friendships made, I miss it. Now I’m bored. Doing a “real” jobs as we used to call them. Where I can actually make money. hard to top that
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