LOL

The 10% is a made up number. There are tons and tons of them on the road being used by hot shotters that are lasting as long or longer than the hemi before any major repairs. 6.7 Cummins has cylinders go bad all the time - local diesel shop says he keeps them in stock he does them so often. Powerstroke CP4 is a common failure and cost $10k-$15k to repair. Duramax has had all sorts of issues over the years - cracked cylinders, CP4, head gaskets, expensive injector failures, numerous 10-speed transmission issues, etc. Are they all [censored] too?

The upcharge goes away when you realize resale is higher, and you save a ridiculous amount in fuel money because you get 27-28 mpg while hemi owners get 17-18 mpg. That upcharge is actually made up completely in about 60k miles at today's fuel prices. So after that it's just savings every time you pull into the pump.

The idea this is some kind of terrible engine is just not reality. They're generally very well liked. The number one eco diesel forum in America had a running list of crank bearing failures and it was 104 people with literally hundreds of thousands of these trucks on the road.

I know you think this is some kind of detective game where you've uncovered the perp and it's FCA/Ram and their terrible engine that nobody knows about, but it's just not reality. They've had some issues...all other brands have had issues as well. I had numerous issues with my wife's brand new 2009 Honda CR-V. My dad's 2013 Tundra had a handful of issues over the 4 years he owned it. My mom's Toyota Rav4 is having problems right now. All of these were less reliable than my ecodiesel, which was never in the shop for anything other than scheduled maintenance and a steering wheel radio button that went out and was replaced for free. Does it mean because I had a few bad experiences with Honda and Toyota that these engines suck? Not at all - it happens. To all of them, whether it's Ram/Honda/Toyota/whoever.

Yeah some expect its closing in on 15%! Wow a little defensive aren't we, I've talked to more than one FCA tech that say these engines, especially the early generation ones, are the bane of their existence, I've seen their face drop everytime one come in. As far as what you say about re-sale, thats a flat out lie, resale on trucks with these power units is as Charle Barkley would say, turrible, some dealer won't even take the 2014-2019 models as trade ins.

First it was speculating 10%

Now some say it's closing in on 15%

You're like a cross between a Donald Trump press release and a QVC salesman...."But wait, there's more!"

I'm done bud. Don't own it anymore, not interested in discussing with person's whose only defense is speculation and anecdotes when the only person in the discussion who actually owned a truck with that motor is not you. I'm not going to convince your speculation that you're wrong, and you're not going to convince me that my experience is wrong. So best of luck bud

This is just completely not true. Some of the folks who have the highest miles and most strenuous use of these trucks have ran 15,000 mile plus oil changes with used oil analysis and are doing perfectly fine.

To start, the ecodiesels in the ram 1500’s are gen II’s. You had a good one and sold early sure yours was good. The gen 2 was and is a disaster. I don’t know what the failure rate is but it’s substantially higher than it’s contemporaries and you know that, it’s a part of why you ditched yours. I still have mine and the only reason I haven’t ditched it is because it’s not worth anything. The failure rate is not low. Supposedly there is a class action in the works for the bearing failures. Some people with integral inside info on the design and tuning of the engine stated they have info to substantiate a class action. It’s one thing to make a flawed product fix under warranty and resolve the issue going forward. Ram sold this engine unchanged from 2014-2019/20 in the classic model after the bottoms end issue was apparent to anyone with a brain since 2015 and definitely to ram in 2015-16 evidences by oil spec change and leaked emails.

Be honest now

I ditched mine because it was 2wd and I got stuck 3 times in great smoky mountains national park on a trip with the kids and wife. If I'd have bought 4x4, I'd still own it and would have just kept a smaller trailer (my current trailer requires 3/4 ton). Loved that truck. Until this F250, best truck I ever owned.

Trying to talk my buddy right now into buying his FIL's 2015 ecodiesel with 150k miles on it. His FIL has had zero issues, and it's mostly used for short trips around town.

I'll admit they had issues with bearings - to say otherwise is not accurate. There were a hundred or so known failures on the biggest ecodiesel forum out there. There were also hundreds of thousands of these sold. We have no idea if the failure rate is 25% or 10% or 1%. To say otherwise is pure opinion...and you know what they say about opinions.

If they had the info to substantiate any kind of legal action, it would already be in the works. These trucks have been out for a decade and FCA has the means to pay out bigtime for a class action, if there was any justification.

To suggest that these bearing failures are "substantially" more common than lifter failures in the AFM GM vortec engines or any of a dozen common issues (carbon buildup, timing chain, turbo failure, etc.) on the 3.5 ecoboost is again, just speculation. We don't have failure rates for literally any of these. So to say that one is higher than the other when you don't actually know either number is just...opinion.

redchevy - do you still have yours? Have the bearings failed?

redchevy - do you still have yours? Have the bearings failed?
Inquiring minds want to know?

I do still have it, along with a plugged up intake and stuck swirl valve code. Dealer wants 5k independent shop wants $2600 when I find time I’ll get it done for parts after I finish hanging lights and wiring my shop.

Haven’t seen it yet supposedly a class action is in works. Dealer cost for a new motor is now $20,000+/- and mid to upper $20k to have it replaced total. I think the obscene cost and lack of support is driving it. Some don’t care for GDE but they stated they had the info to win if someone headed it up and funded it.

Plugged up intake? Are you GDE-deleted?

I wouldn't own any modern diesel with stock emissions. That's asking for a $5k shop bill

GDE?

GDE is a tuning company, they were at one time contracted with Ram at some level and have tons of insight into these engines.

I know someone who just had one blow up. That engine is a turd.

He also mentioned the rumor about the class action lawsuit and said it was going to happen, why else would the engine replacement cost for these skyrocket lately?