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Re: Do you believe in Scents?
[Re: Swimbaiter]
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04/29/14 03:03 PM
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Good reads thanks for the comments
Blake
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Re: Do you believe in Scents?
[Re: salex]
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04/29/14 03:13 PM
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Donald Harper
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All the moving baits with skirts that are on the market now are silicone and will not hold the scent over 5 minutes. I guess you can keep spraying it on as often as you like. My skirts have the minnow power poured into the rubber. Each skirt is then saturated with the 100% minnow oil. I like to use the Minnow scent on as many of my fast moving baits as I can.
All the slow moving soft plastics should be poured with and then saturated with the Night Crawler Scent.
So far every test we have run in Mexico for all these years has proven to me that no other scent will increase your catch ratio and help you catch larger Bass like Minnow and Night Crawler.
Donald, Great stuff. I am curious to get your take on how the fish detect scent on a fast moving spinnerbait. Do you know of any scientific studies done on the subject? Perhaps Auburn on Texas A@M? Don't know of any research except all my years of testing it against every scent available in Mexico. This is the perfect proving ground to find out really quickly what works and what does not. What might take a whole pro staff a years to safely say this really works; might take the staff a year of fishing time to prove it. Of course they are fishing for only 5 good bites per day. We are catching a 100 everyday. All I know is every day down there; you use your scent on the same lizards or brush hogs as I use. Your boat with two guys fishing will catch 70 bass and my boat will catch 100 without fail. The next day we will reverse the process with your boat using Night Crawler on the slow moving plastics and you guys will catch 100 and we will only have 70. Fast Moving baits:- I do tend to use more of the Minnow scent on these baits so it leaves the scent trail in the water. We use a kill it retrieve beside every bush. So those baits go dead in the water beside a bush or tree then take off again. This is when we get most of the bites on the spinner baits, traps, cranks and spook. All these baits are not fished that fast. We slow roll the spinners bumping it into everything possible. - My Spook is being worked like a dying minnow most of the time. Walking the bait,I have only caught one huge bass on it in many, many years of fishing it and I snagged her in the top of the head doing a figure 8 beside the boat. It does a lot of 180 degree turns and bumps into a lot of timber. Cranks are wobbled just under the surface and through the brush. They have plenty of time to track it and smell it.
Last edited by Donald Harper; 04/29/14 03:15 PM.
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Re: Do you believe in Scents?
[Re: Swimbaiter]
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04/29/14 03:28 PM
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Donald Harper
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The Biochemist that makes my scent for me has told me this: - Test done on bass in their facility show that they will hang around and approach the minnow and night crawler chum bags; while ignoring all other types of chum. - Scent when released in the 50 ft. tank through a tiny hose at one end of the tank will cause the bass to approach from 50 feet away almost immediately. - He says that the best time to use Minnow and Night Crawler in his opinion is during a lake rise. The small bait fish and minnow are up there looking for worms and bugs that were at the waters edge. Now they are in the water so those two scents are at the top of the food chain in the shallows of a rising water line.
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Re: Do you believe in Scents?
[Re: Donald Harper]
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04/29/14 03:50 PM
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I don't think scents can hurt. I use them occasionally. It is interesting though, while watching the pro level tournaments on TV, I never see those anglers use scents.
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Re: Do you believe in Scents?
[Re: Donald Harper]
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04/29/14 04:01 PM
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He says that the best time to use Minnow and Night Crawler in his opinion is during a lake rise. The small bait fish and minnow are up there looking for worms and bugs that were at the waters edge. Now they are in the water so those two scents are at the top of the food chain in the shallows of a rising water line. I've never thought about that before and that actually makes alot of sense now. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Do you believe in Scents?
[Re: Swimbaiter]
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04/29/14 06:34 PM
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Craig K
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I firmly believe in negative scents (cigarette smoke, gasoline etc). My grandfather was a commercial salmon, albacore and rockcod fisherman in central California. He bet his livelihood on scent control and used everything he could to cover or avoid negative scents on his baits, lures and equipment. He would tell me of times when his deckhand would operate one outrigger and he the other. He would wash his hands thoroughly, not smoke, and use herring oil on his hoochies, while his deckhand would not have the same diligence. According to him the difference was night and day
I have read stories about people using Oil of Olay on themselves while fishing. In short, a husband and wife were bass fishing. She started using the lotion to keep her hands and face. The wife began catching much more than the husband. The husband went back and looked up the ingredients of the lotion and found fish oil as one of the chief ingredients. I read this in Scientific angler by Paul C Johnson.
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Re: Do you believe in Scents?
[Re: Swimbaiter]
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04/29/14 06:37 PM
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Darrel
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I am a strong believer in scents! They work man!
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Re: Do you believe in Scents?
[Re: Swimbaiter]
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04/29/14 06:44 PM
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Lake Fork Guide Zach Hughes
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Alright I'll bite.....
One of the many many many things I learned from who I think to be one of the greatest finesse fisherman on lake Fork (Billy Dyson) is don't necessarly spray each worm. When you get a bag of worms spray the scent in the bag and let them soak until you use the whole bag. It can't hurt!
Thanks Billy
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Re: Do you believe in Scents?
[Re: Lake Fork Guide Zach Hughes]
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04/29/14 09:06 PM
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Alright I'll bite.....
One of the many many many things I learned from who I think to be one of the greatest finesse fisherman on lake Fork (Billy Dyson) is don't necessarly spray each worm. When you get a bag of worms spray the scent in the bag and let them soak until you use the whole bag. It can't hurt!
Thanks Billy I learned the same from Lake Fork guide Marc Mitchell. I've started putting my plastics in a big ziplock and letting them marinate at the very least, over night. . .
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Re: Do you believe in Scents?
[Re: Swimbaiter]
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04/29/14 09:36 PM
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Donald Harper
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Bobby at Whopper Baits pours some of my plastics with the Night Crawler in the batch. Then while the baits are hot out of the mold bags them and puts 8 more drops in the bag. This is the best time to do it.
Although with the Zoom Lizards which we use many packages of in Mexico; I will just dose up the bags before we leave and they are good to go when we get there.
Plastic pouring materials seem to be different. One of my buddies can't get his pours to do right when he adds the scent to the infection system. Every additive you put like salt, scent, flake and float crystals puts the materials on the edge of breaking down and not holding together right.
I am just as happy with it put in the bag after the fact. It works great.
Last edited by Donald Harper; 04/29/14 09:39 PM.
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Re: Do you believe in Scents?
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04/29/14 09:40 PM
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I have used MegaStrike for years. I firmly believe in it.
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Re: Do you believe in Scents?
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04/29/14 11:10 PM
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LunkerXpress
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Every pro I have been on the water with, and there are 8 now use some kind of scent. Should tell you something. The most popular comes in a black can and rhymes with Hang
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Re: Do you believe in Scents?
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04/30/14 01:40 AM
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DWinn
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I have used MegaStrike for years. I firmly believe in it. And it lasts forever!
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Re: Do you believe in Scents?
[Re: Swimbaiter]
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04/30/14 03:46 AM
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Bass Junkie
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No spray on just infused. Favorite brand is Lake Fork, especially for night fishing. I know they are good especially when my girls complain that my suburban stinks after a trip.
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Re: Do you believe in Scents?
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04/30/14 12:54 PM
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