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 Re: Fork Idiot Alert
[Re: bassackwards dav]
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04/06/14 06:06 PM
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coachallentca
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If it's posted they can ticket you. And if its not and there's boats tied , and the wake does damage or injury to someone the boater who caused the wake can be ticketed and held responsible for wake damage. Thats how it was explained to me by TPWD in Austin.
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Re: Fork Idiot Alert
[Re: coachallentca]
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04/06/14 06:36 PM
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pinesjunkie
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Not saying it right but thats what you get when you fish any bridge any lake the other big complaint is hey the guy about swamp my boat when he came off pad, being that you had kids with you I am sure it was a little up setting. but being a weekend theres no way I would fish with a kid near a boat lane. That what you get when you fish any bridge? Really No they broke the law and endangered others. I have a go pro and will record it and get the TX number and the show it to the game warden who then will them a ticket because it's on video. Not being rude but yea right lol spend all day doing that and let it get under your skin or just go fishing and have a good time and don't be the guy on plan going under the bridge,,you sound like a want to be cop 
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Re: Fork Idiot Alert
[Re: Big Red 12]
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04/06/14 06:40 PM
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pinesjunkie
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What you get for fishing a bridge. Please! In no way was I even close to the path of travel. The fact is and remains there. You have to idle under the bridges. You can't run on pad there. Plan and simple! It is even posted on the bridges on Fork. Yet he still did and so do others its a dangers place to fish,, there are laws about drinking and driving but guess what it still happens,,
Brad Smith
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Re: Fork Idiot Alert
[Re: Big Red 12]
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04/06/14 07:12 PM
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The crazy part about this is "way back when" in the early 90's there were no signs at any of the bridges and most of us; including me, ran under the bridges at full trim and full throttle. I wouldn't do that now even if the signs weren't there. I realized through the lessons that life teaches how insane that was. My boats I had back then would barely ripple the water at full speed but what if someone was approaching from the other side and I couldn't see them because of the angle of approach I'm making on a piling and I run head on into them??????? Not good!
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Re: Fork Idiot Alert
[Re: Big Red 12]
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04/06/14 08:05 PM
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timwins31
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And, it may not be a law statewide. But, it is where posted and it is posted there. Tell that to the 100's that have gotten tickets for it. It's not a law. Like I said, look it up. I've had this discussion on here before, I could tell some of you guys the sky is blue, but since you see a sign that says it isn't, you'd argue. It's not a law, it's a resolution. The cops do still write tickets for it and people pay them. If you challenge it, it WILL be thrown out. Because it's not a law. Try to find it in the Texas penal code. You won't. I know about this in depth. I was privy to a court hearing where the judge told the PA to show him in the penal code what the law stated...after about 30 minutes of looking he PA had to admit it wasn't in the books. Because it's a resolution, not a law. You can argue til you're blue in the face but it won't change the facts. Most cops, GWs, and judges aren't aware of the facts related to the no wake signs. It's nothing underhanded, they're trying to keep people safe. But the facts remain. . .not a law, posted or not. I can walk out to my dock and post a no wake sign on it. . .how would the authorities know if it was legit or not? That's a big part of the reason they won't make it a law, because different county authorities and sometimes HOAs post those no wake signs. Again, if you think I'm wrong, take 5 minutes to look it up instead of arguing with me. Because I'm right.
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Re: Fork Idiot Alert
[Re: Big Red 12]
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04/06/14 08:58 PM
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Wow..now I feel better 
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Re: Fork Idiot Alert
[Re: timwins31]
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04/06/14 09:35 PM
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And, it may not be a law statewide. But, it is where posted and it is posted there. Tell that to the 100's that have gotten tickets for it. It's not a law. Like I said, look it up. I've had this discussion on here before, I could tell some of you guys the sky is blue, but since you see a sign that says it isn't, you'd argue. It's not a law, it's a resolution. The cops do still write tickets for it and people pay them. If you challenge it, it WILL be thrown out. Because it's not a law. Try to find it in the Texas penal code. You won't. I know about this in depth. I was privy to a court hearing where the judge told the PA to show him in the penal code what the law stated...after about 30 minutes of looking he PA had to admit it wasn't in the books. Because it's a resolution, not a law. You can argue til you're blue in the face but it won't change the facts. Most cops, GWs, and judges aren't aware of the facts related to the no wake signs. It's nothing underhanded, they're trying to keep people safe. But the facts remain. . .not a law, posted or not. I can walk out to my dock and post a no wake sign on it. . .how would the authorities know if it was legit or not? That's a big part of the reason they won't make it a law, because different county authorities and sometimes HOAs post those no wake signs. Again, if you think I'm wrong, take 5 minutes to look it up instead of arguing with me. Because I'm right. Heck, I don't have a dog in this hunt but this was just too easy to pass up. I'm providing a link. At the top it says "texas Water Safety Act". Directly below that it says "a summary of boating laws". Go to page 2 and read under the heading of "operation of your boat" and read number 7. http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/pwdpubs/media/pwd_br_l2000_0001.pdflaws don't have to be in the Penal Code to be a Law. Read here and read a few of the various authorities of Texas Laws. They can fall under the administrative code, or the parks and wildlife code. http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/pwdpubs/media/pwd_bk_l2000_0014.pdf
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Re: Fork Idiot Alert
[Re: Big Red 12]
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04/06/14 11:43 PM
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I just read that the best way to get accurate advice on the internet is to post something inaccurate and someone will correct you. KD, thanks for proving the internets right.
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Re: Fork Idiot Alert
[Re: timwins31]
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04/06/14 11:54 PM
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. . .and of course, no one is aware that the state can't legally enforce those no wake signs, because it ISN'T a law. It's a resolution. Look it up.
I'm not saying it was right, everyone should go no wake thru a bridge, but the reason the GWs avoid those areas is because those tickets get thrown out of court almost every time. It puts them in a bad position. If the state would just make it a standard law, no wake thru all bridges or posted areas, it would help. Sorry, but the lakes controlling authority can impose any regulation they wish, it has nothing to do with State Law.
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Re: Fork Idiot Alert
[Re: Big Red 12]
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04/06/14 11:55 PM
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Re: Fork Idiot Alert
[Re: Big Red 12]
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04/07/14 01:37 AM
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Yeah I've seen this a few times. I normally look at whoever I'm with, point at the boat and call them an idiot. 30 seconds later I've moved on and never think of it again. Same thing normally when people come between the bank and my boat. There's bigger things in life.
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Re: Fork Idiot Alert
[Re: Big Red 12]
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04/07/14 01:58 AM
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After my many trips to Fork....it does seem to have more than it's fair share of idiots. I think it is the slot that causes people to lose their mind there.
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Re: Fork Idiot Alert
[Re: Big Red 12]
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04/07/14 02:09 AM
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coachallentca
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is UNLAWFUL for any person to:
1. Operate at a rate of speed greater than is reasonable and prudent or greater than
will permit him to bring such boat to a stop within the assured clear distance ahead.
2. Operate so as to cause a hazardous wake or wash.
3. Operate in a circular course around another vessel, PWC, or individual engaged
in water activities unless retrieving a downed or fallen water skier or a person
engaged in similar activity.
4. Moor or attach to any buoy, beacon, light marker, stake, flag or other aid to safe
operation, or to move, remove, displace, tamper with, damage or destroy the same.
5. Anchor in the traveled portion of a river or channel so as to prevent, impede, or
interfere with safe passage of any other boat through the same area.
6. Operate within an area designated as bathing, fishing, swimming, or otherwise
restricted.
7. Operate within a designated no wake area except at headway speed without
creating a swell or wake.
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Re: Fork Idiot Alert
[Re: Big Red 12]
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04/07/14 02:58 AM
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Close enough to see him eye-to-eye and point at the sign, and yell at him. Please! In no way was I even close to the path of travel. The fact is and remains there. Hang on.....I see conflicting stories here!
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Re: Fork Idiot Alert
[Re: timwins31]
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04/07/14 03:24 AM
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And, it may not be a law statewide. But, it is where posted and it is posted there. Tell that to the 100's that have gotten tickets for it. It's not a law. Like I said, look it up. I've had this discussion on here before, I could tell some of you guys the sky is blue, but since you see a sign that says it isn't, you'd argue. It's not a law, it's a resolution. The cops do still write tickets for it and people pay them. If you challenge it, it WILL be thrown out. Because it's not a law. Try to find it in the Texas penal code. You won't. I know about this in depth. I was privy to a court hearing where the judge told the PA to show him in the penal code what the law stated...after about 30 minutes of looking he PA had to admit it wasn't in the books. Because it's a resolution, not a law. You can argue til you're blue in the face but it won't change the facts. Most cops, GWs, and judges aren't aware of the facts related to the no wake signs. It's nothing underhanded, they're trying to keep people safe. But the facts remain. . .not a law, posted or not. I can walk out to my dock and post a no wake sign on it. . .how would the authorities know if it was legit or not? That's a big part of the reason they won't make it a law, because different county authorities and sometimes HOAs post those no wake signs. Again, if you think I'm wrong, take 5 minutes to look it up instead of arguing with me. Because I'm right. You are sadly mistaken sir. Its not in the Texas Penal Code simply because its a violation of the Water Safety Act. There are tons of laws that are enforceable that are NOT in the Penal Code. Several examples for fun shall we? Transportation Code, Government Code, Alcoholic Beverage Code, Juvenile Code, Family Code, Health and Safety Code, Texas Parks and Wildlife Code, Agriculture Code, and the Water Safety Act. Just like the several posts above, It is very easy to enforce and cite an individual for violating that particular part of the Water Safety Act. Trust me, LEO's, GW's, and Judges are VERY aware of what they can and can not do my friend.
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