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stronger tippet?? #9816616 03/12/14 04:01 AM
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Man! I must lose more flies than anyone one else alive!
I go through at least 2 flies everytime I fish. You name it I've lost it.
I think I may need to move up to bigger tippet that 6x. Ive lost a few flies when I hooked into something.
one broke right where the fly was and another broke up by my leader..
Ive lost a few when I get bites..
Am I not tying these knots ive tied for years right?? blows my mind.
Never had this problem until fly fishing haha

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When I bought my Orvis tippet, the guy at Bass Pro asked me what size bass. And for the most part they are 1-2lb range but I know there are 8 pound fish in there. Do I need to move up to something stronger?


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Re: stronger tippet?? [Re: Ozark88] #9816632 03/12/14 04:06 AM
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Bass? 3x or 4x would be fine. Surprised 6x holds at all..... we rarely use 6x even for stingy trout

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crazy. looks like I gotta move up. dunno why he sold me that stuff..
he did tell me he was a trout guy


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I make my own tippets, I use 12 to 16lb Fluor line..

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Re: stronger tippet?? [Re: Ozark88] #9818566 03/12/14 08:01 PM
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Yea get some 7.5 feet twelve pound tapered leaders and get you a spool of 8-15 pound invisix floro and add three feet or so of it. Over 8# invisix is the best stuff on the market in my opinion. Under 8# I go with rio floro flex its ultra supple in lower line strengths. Hope this helps.


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I think you need to go to 8x or maybe 12x. You're not losing enough flies. I lose at least 6 when I go fly fishing. 6x on bass? You're not much of a sportsman, IMO.

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First, I often lose a half dozen or more flies a trip, especially fishing subsurface. Second, since they are not leader shy, you should never have to go smaller than 3x for bass. Third, the guy that sold you 6x for bass was a dunce and should be fired.


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Re: stronger tippet?? [Re: jonbo] #9820136 03/13/14 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: jonbo
I think you need to go to 8x or maybe 12x. You're not losing enough flies. I lose at least 6 when I go fly fishing. 6x on bass? You're not much of a sportsman, IMO.


Thanks Jonbo, I appreciate that.
Coming from a long line of sportsman, I consider myself a conversationalist first and foremost. Then a sportsman.
But I have surpassed my father and living relatives knowledge of fishing, and started my own understanding of fly fishing, something they have never tried.
So, I think I'm doing pretty well. With or without your input



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Re: stronger tippet?? [Re: mickfly] #9820140 03/13/14 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted By: mickfly
First, I often lose a half dozen or more flies a trip, especially fishing subsurface. Second, since they are not leader shy, you should never have to go smaller than 3x for bass. Third, the guy that sold you 6x for bass was a dunce and should be fired.


In his defense (he was a super cool guy, who actually taught the local casting class):
I told him I was looking to fish bass and possibly trout, as I was making a trip to the Guadalupe around that same time. (early January)
I'll just pick up some bigger stuff next time I make it out Bass Pro way.

Thanks Mick, and everyone else who chimed in.

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Sorry man. I thought you HAD to be joking. I was TOTALLY joking around there. You have actually been using 6x for bass? Bro, only use 6x when you have to. I might use 7x or 8x on a size 24 dry fly for finicky trout in a still pool. I use 6x floro when the thread midges or midge pupa I'm fishing with have eyes so small I can't get 5x through them. For bass flies I'm sure I would be using 3x or 4x at smallest. My advice? Buy a 7' leader that tapers to 3x. Add whatever you need to that, 3x, 4x, 5x, 6x. Keep spools of those in both floro and mono in your vest. I buy one of those little vest sized spools of each. Then I buy a big spool of Maxima floro of the sizes I want to refill the little spools that I carry around because it's much cheaper.

Some think using smaller tippet sizes get them more hookups. I don't know. I can't stand them when I don't need to use them.

Again, for some reason I thought you were "having us on", as the Brits say. Sorry about that.

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I carry 2x to 5x in my kit. Not fluoro, tho. I don't fish for anything toothier than bass. I usually add about 18" to 2 feet of 4x to a 7.5 Foot tapered leader. I use the tapered leader because I don't have as many problems with my cast that way. For close distances, I will, on occasion use 6# or 8# Mono for a leader, but only about 4 feet. When I try for more than that, I make a hell of a mess. Just my piss-poor casting stroke.

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Re: stronger tippet?? [Re: Ozark88] #9821529 03/13/14 08:05 PM
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Well thanks for the info guys. No one ever taught me anything I had to teach myself.
Ill move up to some bigger stuff here soon. at least I know I can land decent fish on 6x! banana


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I only use 6x Orvis Mirage on the San Juan when trying to fool those trout. 3x or 4x would do the trick for bass.

Re: stronger tippet?? [Re: Ozark88] #9822148 03/14/14 12:33 AM
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Hope you didnt loose any of the flies
I sent you............lol
Definitely a stronger tippet required and incidently I have lost a lot more than two flies per trip
Just saying
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