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Rivets or Screws?
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03/05/14 04:05 PM
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JJ4MEL
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I need to install some pad eyes and a scotty rod holder on my daughter's yak. I do not have access to the inside hull. So my question is, am I better off using rivets or screws? Any specific brand or type I should use to avoid rust? Should I add a little marine goop to seal the entry point of the rivet/screw? I appreciate the feedback.
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Re: Rivets or Screws?
[Re: JJ4MEL]
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03/05/14 04:13 PM
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C-Frog
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I prefer screws with well nuts. Use locktite and marine silicon and you will have a perfect water tight seal, and its easier than using a rivet gun to me
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Re: Rivets or Screws?
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03/05/14 04:47 PM
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Neumie
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Either well nuts or rivets will work.
"Water is life's matter and matrix, mother and medium. There is no life without water." -Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man." - Heraclitus
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Re: Rivets or Screws?
[Re: JJ4MEL]
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03/05/14 05:25 PM
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Kayak_and_Crossbones
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Do you have a rivet gun? Have you used it before. If you do, and your comfortable with it, I would use a Rivet gun. If not...screws, nuts work just as well.
There's no wrong choice between the two options...just preference.
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Re: Rivets or Screws?
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03/05/14 06:06 PM
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SleepingTiger
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Do you have a rivet gun? Have you used it before. If you do, and your comfortable with it, I would use a Rivet gun. If not...screws, nuts work just as well.
There's no wrong choice between the two options...just preference.
im not a riveteer or anything, but is there something special to use a rivet gun? For well nuts, don't you have to drill a bigger hole for the nut to fit? For me, i prefer rivets because they are easy to use, and the rivets themself are cheap. removing them is easy as well.
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Re: Rivets or Screws?
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03/05/14 06:14 PM
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CCTX
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For something that makes a small hole and isn't terribly weight bearing (pad eyes, rod holders, etc) I'll use either rivets or self tapping screws. Something that makes a big hole (hatch) I'd go with nuts/bolts. Goop it for sure.
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Re: Rivets or Screws?
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03/05/14 06:19 PM
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CanadiYak
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Being that he said he does not have access to the inside of his hull I would say rivets are the answer
Tight-Lines Mike aka "Playing Hooky"
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Re: Rivets or Screws?
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03/05/14 06:25 PM
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C-Frog
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Being that he said he does not have access to the inside of his hull I would say rivets are the answer if you go with well nuts you also don't need hull access
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Re: Rivets or Screws?
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03/05/14 06:50 PM
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JJ4MEL
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I don't have a whole lot of $$ to invest in this small project. Rivets may be the best option due to a smaller hole in the yak. However, I would have to buy a rivet gun. The well nuts seem like a strong hold and the easier option for me since I have the tools needed. Just concerned about the bigger hole. I appreciate the feedback.
I'm curious, if I bought the product from a local kayak dealer, would they install for free? Or would a fee be involved? It is just pad eyes, so maybe not.
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Re: Rivets or Screws?
[Re: JJ4MEL]
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03/05/14 06:54 PM
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You can borrow my rivet gun--PM sent.
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Re: Rivets or Screws?
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03/05/14 06:59 PM
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marcus254
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you can get a stanley rivet gun at homedepot for 10$ and you will have it for anything else you might want to use it for not just kayaking.
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Re: Rivets or Screws?
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03/05/14 11:49 PM
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JOED214
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Rivets for the padeyes and well nuts for the rod holder. That's what I would do anyhow... Just be sure to use the correct size bit for the well nuts.
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Re: Rivets or Screws?
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03/06/14 05:40 AM
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I had never used rivets prior to watching a YouTube video on how to install flush mount rod holders. That being said, it was just as easy as it seemed in the video. I bought a 15 dollar rivet gun that came with dozens of rivets of various size, and it worked perfect for the task. I did not have access to the hull so they worked well. I put a ring of caulk around the base before pushing the rod holder all the way down and wiped away the excess. It looks great and has worked well. I would suggest rivets.
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Re: Rivets or Screws?
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03/06/14 04:39 PM
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Re: Rivets or Screws?
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03/07/14 07:26 AM
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fishinpreacher
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If you use rivets make sure you use the backing washers or the rivets that spread out like an anchor bolt. A rivet will eventually pull out of the plastic if you don't.
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