If you think most lakes you fish have alligator gar in them in abundance then either one of two things are true: You spend most of your time on choke canyon,falcon,livingston, and rayburn -or- you do not know the difference between a spotted gar and an alligator gar.

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I personally know the difference, not going to speak for everyone else. BUT I will reply since I stated "just about every lake I visit has gar". I have been to each of the lakes you mentioned. I have been to most lakes in East Texas. Most of those rivers you mentioned empty or come from the lakes we have. So if the river has them, the lakes do too.

I asure you that I know the difference between Alligator Gar and Longnose gar.. And if you think that that aligator gar and bass just swim around peacefully in the same water then you need to come to some of those southern waters you mentioned and look around the lakes.

As far as Alligator gar being a river fish only, nothing could be farther from the truth. You are right, our rivers are full of them, but so are the lakes. You can tie up to any main lake marker on Falcon in the summer. Lets say marker three or four. Where the river is only about three miles wide.. Some would call it a lake.

You can watch the whales play all day long, as they gently roll, basking in the sun..

Nobody is advocating the the wiping out of the gar. But some common sense management with different rules for different lakes is not hard to accomplish.. They have different speed limits for different roads. They change dove and deer and quail limits as needed.. What's so hard about doing it with gar where needed?

And if you think that gar check to see what kind of fish they are eating then we certainly need to quit talking. They are opportunistic feeders and eat what is readily available. If bass are in high numbers, they are going to eat a lot of bass.. And I assume TPWD wants high bass numbers because they keep stocking them and 90% or more of their money (fisheries) comes from bass fishermen.

Aligator gar growth rates at Falcon are off the charts. We have three year old fish reproducing and 100 pound fish that are five or less years old.. We do not have a gar shortage.. Down here we have a plague..

Until you have seen it you have no idea what I am talking about.

It is past time to remove, or at the minimum increase the daily bag limit on gar.

Another thing about this proposal is that they have not defined what the criteria would be for closing the areas to the pursuit of gar. How much rain? How much water flow? For how long?

There are no parameters set out here, only the gift of power to do as they decide.

Sounds like Obammacare.. We have to pass the law to see what's in it..

This is a bad precedent to set..

And if you think that gar check to see what kind of fish they are eating then we certainly need to quit talking. They are opportunistic feeders and eat what is readily available. If bass are in high numbers, they are going to eat a lot of bass.

The second part of my issue besides them being vague is that they are not even interested in biting a hook most of the time during active spawning activity.
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