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Re: Which is better, Seafoam,Stabil [Re: rlfisher] #9198368 08/05/13 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: rlfisher
Norhtern Tool in Lewisville carries seafoam and it is the cheapest place to get it last time I bought it there it was 6.99 a can
Good to know. I need to check next time I am there. I have seen it at Academy, Wal Mart and Autozone. Academy in Mesquite and others in Rockwall. I remember Auto Zone being the highest. I keep some ethanol treatment around but only use it when I do not plan on using up the gas in my tank. Weedeater / chainsaw gas always gets it because it sits. Also put it in ATV. Takes a while to run 4 gallons through a Polaris.


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Re: Which is better, Seafoam,Stabil [Re: Stump jumper] #9198745 08/05/13 06:53 PM
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I've been using stabil with every tanks and Yamaha Ring free with every other tank of gas as advised by my mechanic. Pricy stuff. Probably made with the same ingrediants.

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Ring-Additive-32oz-ACC-RNGFR-32-00/dp/B002GUCLH2

Re: Which is better, Seafoam,Stabil [Re: HappyFisherman] #9201485 08/06/13 12:14 PM
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Seafoam is a Cleaner and it keeps the carbon from building up.

Stabil Marine formula will help stop phase separation in your fuel when it sets a few weeks.

Re: Which is better, Seafoam,Stabil [Re: HappyFisherman] #9201960 08/06/13 02:46 PM
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actually Seafoam does both. It is a stabilizer and cleaner.

Re: Which is better, Seafoam,Stabil [Re: big mike] #9202790 08/06/13 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: big mike
actually Seafoam does both. It is a stabilizer and cleaner.


X2.....cleans, stabilizes, and removes water. I use Seafoam only. Stabil will congeal after awhile in the bottom of your fuel tank and gunk up everything. I know cause it happened to me.


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Re: Which is better, Seafoam,Stabil [Re: HappyFisherman] #9203401 08/06/13 08:42 PM
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Lucas in every motor Ive owned for over 25 years,the rest of their products are questionable
Great Injector cleaner with just abit of lube for the top end
Seafoam is a good product,it is a very aggressive cleaner that will knock loose "chunks" on neglected motors and "chunks" aint a good thing in rotating assemblys or fuel delivery/process's.

Consistency is the key to using these products use them in acouple tanks of fuel before OCI and all the trash goes out the drain hole at service time.

Re: Which is better, Seafoam,Stabil [Re: HappyFisherman] #9204133 08/07/13 12:12 AM
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My boat mechanic told me to use Seafoam.


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Re: Which is better, Seafoam,Stabil [Re: HappyFisherman] #9257485 08/24/13 10:05 PM
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I was using stabil but I noticed I had lost a little power. I put in some sea foam and started running smoother and got my top end back.. Just sayin.. But im new to owning a boat but I did notice the difference.

Re: Which is better, Seafoam,Stabil [Re: ItchyBob] #9257715 08/25/13 12:10 AM
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I don't mean to jack the thread, but where do you get Seaform? I've checked Autozone and O'Reily and they don't have them. Academy doesn't have them either. Thanks

You must have looked past it at Autozone & O'reilly's. Also check Walmart. Looke near the engine cleaners.


Northern Tool sells Seafoam every day for $6.48 a can.


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Re: Which is better, Seafoam,Stabil [Re: HappyFisherman] #9257768 08/25/13 12:36 AM
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Re: Which is better, Seafoam,Stabil [Re: HappyFisherman] #9257770 08/25/13 12:36 AM
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The problem with gas as I understand it (after poking around on the wild world web) is that (1) the lighter parts of gasoline evaporate during storage leaving a heavier less potent fuel, (2) gas breaks down during storage via oxidation, (3) ethanol in fuel absorbs water and deteriorates some fuel lines and gaskets.

I can't see any of the products helping with #1 since they cannot stop evaporation and there aren't enough added distillates in that little bottle, although it's the primary ingredient. Seems adding fresh gas (maybe premium) to the old gas is the only way to "freshen" it up. (2) I'll have to take their word for it as I don't understand fuel antioxidants. Looks like Stabil may have an antioxidant in it's secret sauce. Star Tron uses an antioxidant enzyme and SeaFoam has none that I can see. (3) Ethanol itself is a great solvent which is why it eats some plastic/rubber fuel lines and gaskets and pumps. It would seem that Ethanol cleans your carbs/injectors while running, but I'm guessing it's not so kind while sitting in the fuel system for 6 months since it can absorb water.

So if you run your boat frequently and keep your gas fresh, how much of this stuff do you really need? This is just my $.02 worth, I don't claim to have a full understanding of fuel treatment.

Here is the breakdown of what's in Stabil, Seafoam and Star Tron.

Stabil
Petroleum Distillate - 95%
Additive Mixture - 5%

Seafoam
Pale Oil - 40-60%
Naptha - 25-35%
IPA - Isopropyl Alchohol 10-20%

Star Tron
Proprietary 0.5%
Solvent Naphtha 95%


MSDS sheets here

Stabil

Seafoam

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Re: Which is better, Seafoam,Stabil [Re: HappyFisherman] #9258202 08/25/13 03:11 AM
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Don't use seafoam to clean clogged injectors. I tried that and it pushed more gunk from my fuel lines and tank into the injectors! The stuff is great if you use it on a regular basis though. I put it in all my motors once a month now. That's both me and my wife's trucks, dirtbikes, and lawn equipment. Haven't had problems yet. If the motor is going to sit I recommend either clearing it of fuel or running it dry with stabil in the fuel. Just my 2cents


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Re: Which is better, Seafoam,Stabil [Re: I love fishing] #9271154 08/29/13 02:40 PM
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Just purchased a gal. sea foam O'rellys,51.00 and some change. Hewitt, Tx.

Re: Which is better, Seafoam,Stabil [Re: HappyFisherman] #9272738 08/29/13 11:03 PM
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Aside from fuel injector issues (a relatively new thing to outboards), it's just a shame that we have to deal with all of this. And we are dealing with it simply because we tried "gasahol" (as an independent fuel source, yeah right) and now all of the corn growers (big business, not mom and pops in the midwest) are hooked on the gov't corn subsidies. Phase separation is not common, but when (if) it happens, kiss your two stroke goodbye. Not such a big issue with four strokes (straight ethanol with some water is just a huge drop in power (BTUs). So there, politics and physics in a 50:1 ratio. Gosh, have I really grown so bitter in old age?

Personally, keep the fuel tank near full (less air space [humidity]) and marine stabil.


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Re: Which is better, Seafoam,Stabil [Re: HappyFisherman] #9273246 08/30/13 01:45 AM
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I use both, stabile every fill up and seafoam ever other fill up.

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