Does anyone have positive or negative input on Phoenix Boats? Obviously they are good boats, I just rarely see or hear about them. I will be in the market for a new to me Bass boat and these have caught my eye.

And they are nasty looking!

I rode in one at rayburn. One awesome boat! They have it all. Im in the market also. Its either phoenix or bass cat. Go to ships marine website and look at the colors os the new 921 they just got. Most awesome colors ive ever seen. Its black, grey, and lime green. You just have to see it.

I have no experience with Phoenix Boats, Clay.

My best advice would be to look at resale values of Phoenix in 2010-2012 compared to known industry leaders in that category.

Phoenix is a relatively new company, so you'll probably want to pay more attention to value relative to the competition. Since inception of the brand. In other words, are resales increasing in % of value when compared to leading brands? And is that growth consistent over the period?

I just got my 2014 721 ProXP about 3 weeks ago. I ordered it from Shipp's Marine in Gladewater (Brent Abernathy). Service and the price on the boat were outstanding even though they are 3 hours away for me. I looked at every major brand out there before buying and I believe I got the best boat made for me. Super ride, great hole shot, and tons of storage. I am 59 years old and this will be my last new boat so re-sale wasn't a consideration, but I suspect it will be okay. Be happy to show it to you if you want to look at one without having to leave the metroplex.

Clay just so you know the Toad approves! Nice boats bud!

Good for you Grumps! Congrats on the new rig.

And you bought it from some of the finest folks in East Texas and the boating industry. Just like Rockwall Marine, I'd trust Shipp's Marine with anything related to my boat (and have) with the utmost confidence in workmanship, honesty and integrity.

The Shipp family has treated me like their favorite customer, since the first time I walked through their doors.

Clay,

Do your home work. Drive as many as you can..if I was buying a new boat Phoenix would be in my top 2. Go to BBC and ask around...pick up the phone and call the plant and ask to speak with Gary Or Hank. Their customer service is second to none. Good luck shopping

I have owned boats for over twenty years and I bought a Phoenix a year and a half ago. It is the best boat I have ever owned and I am sold. Great customer service, great rough water ride, great livewells, and it drives like a corvette. Just take a ride in one and that's all it takes. It was designed by fishermen and has a lot of neat ideas.

Ask Darold Gleason, he's experienced a few of them. Because new and still getting word out their prices come in below the other new boats. When looking at deprecation as Fouz says keep that in mind. I honestly think they are one of the best and innovative boats for the dollar. New name, but old school experienced development team from other companies.

I've fished in a 618 several times. It's the smallest boat they make but it still has great layout and innovative storage. You can definitely tell that it is designed by serious fisherman. My Cat doesn't leave me with boat envy very often, but I like that Phoenix. Also, when in the back of Kickapoo, it doesn't make a sound when sliding over stumps. Appears to be very solid.

my dad has a 721 pro xp it is by far the best riding boat i have ever been in!!! They have alot of cool features such as the net storage, tool holders, snake light,etc. The only complaint on the 721 is, is the deck is a little narrow compare to the skeeter he use to have however the 921 is more comparable to the skeeter. overall awesome boats go see ships marine in gladwater top notch guys.

I'm looking at the 721 ProXP also for a purchase next year. Where is the closest dealer around Austin?

Chris, Phoenix's website doesn't show any dealers near Travis Co. The closest to Austin is Shipp's. You could do most of it over the phone and finalize (or bail) in person. Gladewater is about 5 hours from Austin. alan21 in San Angelo, where did you purchase your Phoenix?

I heard there was a dealer in Livingston....But have been unable to find any info. I was hoping to be able to get "touchy/feely" and get a demo ride before jumping in with both feet. This will be my first boat BTW.....coming from the kayak world!

Jay Kendrick owns one and it is a screaming fast machine. Haven't ridden in it yet, but its pretty dang impressive to me!

Who wants up go for a ride, just shoot me an email at gleasonfishing@gmail.com. I am on my 4th Phoenix, so I can answer any questions you have. Like everyone said though, just do your homework and choose the boat that fits you best. Let me know how I can help.

marine outlet in temple is a dealer

nice boat

I believe there are only 3 dealers in Texas. Capt. Kirk's in Spring, Shipp's, and I can't remember the other. I talked to both Kirk's and Shipp's and Shipp's hands down for me was the go to dealer. I ended up making the deal and ordering the boat via email and the phone. Absolutely the easiest big ticket purchase I have ever made. I can't say enough nice things about their service. A wonderful family business since 1955.

I have been looking at all the Major brands and rode in each one , all had good and bads , But for Over all Best riding boat and getting the Most stuff for your Money Phoenix was the leader. And that's the way I went , I just Brought the 619 Pro after selling my Triton . It is by Far the Top selling boat on the East side of MS river .

Your official stamp of approval.

PM Derek Grier. He has a nice one too.

Nice ride and very well lay out of the boat.

Clay do your homework. Write down what you want and the price you are willing to pay. I keep an open mind on brand and went where the deal was. I bought my triton in Missouri back in 2007. I will say get the biggest motor you can afford. At least 225 if not 250. It will help in resale later on down the road. Best of luck in finding your new ride.

I rode in Derek G's boat and it was amazing. I really like the layout and all of the extras. The net storage, the lazy susan, lighted compartments and it looks just beautiful. That was the fastest that I had ever been in a boat. AWESOME!!!

Clay you can hit me up, I live about 45 minutes from you and have been running a Phoenix since 2010.. Be glad to give you a demo, mine is a 721

They're drfinitely good looking boats! pretty quick too. Really, I feel like now days you can't really go wrong with any new boat. They're all awesome

Why roll the dice with Phoenix when you could buy a Legend boat who you know will stay in business.

Resale and how far is the closest dealer from you? I don't want to drive five hours one way to get work done

lol! Chuck approved!

+1 Dereks boat is one of the best looking ones I've seen, it's wicked fast with that 250 merc too.

A friend of mine has ordered a 721 from Shipps. He's been waiting 13 weeks. Was supposed to be here in 12. He has a 621 I believe. It rides very well. Very similar to the other boats just less expensive. Had I had the extra to spend I would have checked into these boats.

We delivered a beautiful 721 Phoenix boat today for one of our wounded soldiers. He was happier than a chicken on a June bug.

I have fished out of my bud Derek's Pheonix a lot and I have nothing but good things to say about it. Very impressive ride in rough water!! Honestly, if I had the money to buy a new boat it would be a Pheonix.

yea, it seems that there are virtually no used Phoenix boats out there. looks like if you want one, gonna have to buy new or close to new. That stinks

You will probably see some of the pro staff boats come up end of this year into next. that's what Darold usually does, see if he's going to do it again. His boat this year looks really really good.

Check out Bass Boat Central, there are several for sale, there is one in Prosper, Tx that would be worth consideration. But you are right, they are all 2011-2013.

Put up a post that your interested in a used phoenix in the "phoenix boats section" at BBC and you may be able to tempt some to sell

Call Phoenix - ask for Gary Clouse - tell him what you are looking for...they might have a demo

I can help you find a used one to if you are looking for one. Just message me and I will see what I can do to help. I will be selling my 921 by the beginning of November, but I can also help find Demo's and other pro staff boats. You can also call and talk with Gary or Hank and they will help you out.

We have a nice looking Phoenix in our park at Fork...great looking boat, I just do not know much about them.

I have a buddy that has a loaded out 2011 721 he is selling, pm me if you are interested ?

I bought Darold's 2012 721. I researched for 6 months and everything pointed to the Phoenix. Best thing to do is take a ride in one on rough water. That's the best way to judge a boat's performance in my opinion and mine has far exceeded my expectations in every aspect of performance. Just pull the trigger. You will absolutely love it.

I just covered my computer screen with Dr Pepper

Got to ride with Clouse in his personal for a PAA tournament on Conroe - Impressive boat.

Thanks guys for the help, I will look into this a little more.

just got a quote today for a 2014 721

with what brand and hp motor, and...how much?

There is a new dealer in Vidor, Jordan Marine

At this stage of the game there is very little room for even a good boat because of paybacks and other money, Triton Gold and on it goes, - the resale is not as good on a minor company and that is all they can ever be unless the Triton, Ranger, Straros people buy them out - Skeeter is very small if you get out of Texas by the sales number so a very small company that might produce a very good boat has very little chance of going far but locally - they don't have the billoions to back them and in turn the resale is not up to par with the big boys

I need to take a pic and post of my 921, black and silver with red pin stripes and red blade power poles.

I hate to brag but it freakin sharp

I've never been stuck on any one boat but may be stuck on Phoenix

A salesmen at Shipps was telling me one of the persons that put together the Phoenix was the designer of the Champion boats thus coming up with the name Phoenix (raised out of the ashes). I recently had my boat worked on at Shipps and they are great people to work with. Good luck with whatever boat you choose.

Billy, since when did Scott start carrying Phoenix?

There was a 920 or 921 at the Pack tournament Sunday....I think it is LA tags on it...it was one of the best looking boat I had ever seen.

i wouldnt say skeeter is very small out of texas
lots of skeeters in the south east. also it may appear phoenix dosent have good resale but u also have to realize they r cheaper when u buy them new

Bad resale? And he can't find a used one because there are not a lot for sale? Those two statements don't jive...supply and demand..these boat are just not big in Texas yet..

Texas areas (and I'm sure other states) have "brand loyalty clicks" based around the tournament scenes and incentive payout programs. In some areas you are even looked down upon if you buy certain brands over others. I'm sure as time goes on, Phoenix will establish more and more of a foothold on this market. I know when I pull the trigger......it's going to be a Phoenix!

Phoenix does have the First in Flight program and are into alot of the trails around the Country including Bass Champs . Here's a link to some info. http://www.phoenixbassboats.com/firstflighttournament.html

I am going to have to disagree, I have been looking at used boats for about 3 years and it really doesn't matter what boat you find, if it's a 2005 or newer with a 225 hp plus your looking at 25k plus. Some used boat prices are just laughable. The lowest on the totem pole ( no disrespect ) would be the Nitro. Now, given the price comparability on "new" boats, the Nitro is more affordable. So a 3 or 4 year old Nitro will be less expensive than a 3 or 4 year old Skeeter or Legend or Ranger ect. ect. You will find those used boats for sale that were 60k brand new, now they are 10 years old and worth 20k but up for sale by owner at 35k which is beyond me. People seem to be "really" proud of what they owe, or what they think their boat is worth to them, versus what the boat is really "worth". The "new boat sales" of skeeter might be larger in Texas, but most anglers are searching for used boats due to the fact of increased cost of a new boat. About 30% of used boats I find in the 20k range are in Texas, the rest are Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, the list goes on and on. Anyway to get to the point I believe companies like Phoenix Boats are like hidden gems that everyone wants, but decide to believe the hype and choose a "proper" brand. There is a reason why some of the best anglers in the world have chosen Phoenix, and that's good enough for me to decide to be interested in them.

Exactly- it's called "sponsorship". New companies need good marketing. Those pros prob have the best deals out of all the brands. I would own a Phoenix, just from hearing Jay talk about his. Plus, they have a fast hull and the first one to the spot owns it.

I would be more than willing to help market the quality of Phoenix Boats. Just sayin.

Loving our Phoenix, only 1 issue in 14 months (cracked brass fitting on speedometer). Love everything from the layout, ride, finish etc., plus customer service is awesome. How many boat manufacturers send you pictures of the build like this?




Here are the finished pics!

Chance,

He just got signed up, I haven't talked to him in a couple of weeks but should have some on the way unless something changed

Thanks Billy

Really nice Kent, really nice.

beautiful!!

I got to go fir my first ride in a 721 with a 225 sho and that thing is nasty. Not only was it the best looking boat ive ever seen but it was ridiculously fast out of the hole. And cut through the rough water like no other. When i can afford one ill have a phoenix for sure!

That's where I bought my Phoenix, but they don't sell them any more. I have a 721 I bought in Nov. 2009. I don't see any reason to sell it. (Although a new 921 is tempting.)

Like another gentleman said, and after nearly 40 years of boat ownership, it is 'probably my last boat purchase'. I bought the one I thought would last me the rest of my life.

That boat at the Pack tournament was mine, she will be for sale soon.

+1000

I would buy one, without any reservations!! I think they are very well built.

I will be looking at new or slightly used boat in the next year or so, and the more I see the more and more I am leaning towards one. The folks I know who have ridden in one or own one I haven't heard one bad thing about them yet.

The only bad thing I have heard about Phoenix is that it is narrow and doesn't have a lot of front deck space compared to the other leading brand boats. But I am also in a 19 foot skeeter at the moment and I guarantee anything 20 foot plus is better than what I'm in now.

I have had my Phoenix for 2 years now and absolutely love it. Great ride! Gonna get a new Phoenix in January so putting mine up for sale now. 2011 great condition $39,750 [img]http://[IMG]http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/kevinjeane/null_zpsdeed90d3.jpg[/img][/img]
Let me know of interested.

Really nice boat bud, but I, myself, am interested in a black, red, and white theme. Maybe a little silver in there to match the F250. Good luck on the sale, very nice.

The 920 and 921 both have a HUGE front deck,, they set up with a front deck more like the Rangers.. The 721 has a narrow deck but its still enough for 2 people to fish off of.. I will try and get you guys some pictures.

Here is a picture of my buddies front deck on a 920,, It looks like a landing strip sitting in drivers seat.. This pictures does it No justice, But will give you a idea of layout.

Heres the Boat..

Here is another buddies 721 he has for sale,, He is getting a 921 next.


Here is the New One I just brought last week,, Just have to get back in country now and go pick it up and start the Break In.

Very nice!

That is a bad [censored] looking boat !!

Thanks guys

Like this? This is my boat.

Bottom line a boat is not a good investment no matter what kind. LOL I have friends who go back and forth about Ranger and Pheonix. I have fished out of both and honestly I prefer the Pheonix. Here is my take:

Cost New Fully rigged--------Value 2 years later---Loss
Ranger---$70,000-------------------$45,000--------$25,000
Skeeter--$65,000-------------------$45,000--------$20,000
Legend---$60,000-------------------$40,000--------$20,000
Triton----$55,000-------------------$40,000--------$15,000
Pheonix--$50,000-------------------$40,000--------$10,000
No matter what losing $10k-$20k in two years is a terrible investment.

New. 5 years later
Ranger 70k 69k ( oh but it's got power poles now)
Skeeter 65k. 55k ( HDS 5 now)
Legend 48k. 44k ( new lower unit)
Triton 65k 65k ( new carpet )
Nitro 48k 29k ( someone please buy this boat )
Phoenix.... Priceless

Do you accept trade ins?

I know nothing about a Phoenix boat but I'll say Shipp's Marine is an excellent dealer for both sales and service. Those guys treat you like you're their oldest friend and very knowledgable on everything they sell.

That is the best looking Phoenix I have ever seen!! Bad "A"!!! Some 10' red power pole blades would look sick on that boat.

Skeeter!!!!! You'll miss her.

I like them a lot been looking at the 921's at ships but not time for me to upgrade yet they have some nice ones. I also saw this one not sure if you saw it.


http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/boa/3921960175.html


Here are my favorite 2

My boat is a 719 but I'm glad to see you enjoyed the ride. There are still a lot of Phoenix haters out there but I can promise you that not very many of them have taken a ride like you did. It will change your mind and favorite brand for sure. They can do things that a lot of the other major brands can't and do it fast. They are the best boat I've ever been in hands down.

I've seen the lime green one in person and it is a BEAUTIFUL boat for sure.

I have a purple Cobra and I'm in love with that purple phoenix.

Got my Phoenix 921 pro xp with 250 merc pro xs in March 2013 and used it every weekend since, no exceptions. Purchased from Capt Kirk Marine in Spring TX. They have been excellent to work with, If I had an issue they fixed it fast, typically same day. Small issues I can think of: Trailer brake bad wire, phoenix lightbulbs blown on trailer, horn fuse blown, trolling motor bent shaft (my bad), screws backing out on bumper trim in 2 places, fuel leak from primer bulb. ... like i said "small issues" you get these on any boat. Now i have to say i have 1 issue: the rod lockers get wet if you spear a wave or hit heavy rain. it's a real shame if you ask me. But I talk to others with 921 and they say no problem except for 1 other guy said he has the same issue. Maybe we got unlucky? I get round it with covered storage she dries out with compartments open. However thats the issues. The pros are the ride, its solid, safe and easy to drive. I have run toledo and Rayburn in 4 footers and been airborn plenty of times, nothing broke! I can turn a corner fast and hit other boats wake like its not there. It looks awesome and I have a center console and center seat that are interchangeable and a passenger console that comes out just as easy. The windshields remove quickly too which is a big bonus for cleaning. I cannot imagine ever needing to trade up again. Did I mention the awesome ride! The trailer is nice too I had one bad tire that would not balance, they changed that out on day 2, it gets around flawlessly and the brakes on 1 axle are adequate. Sorry that was long! I am impressed by this boat.
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Derek post a couple shots of your rig brotha, make'um droooooool.
I run a Skeeter, but I have to say the looks of these boats are without question,awesome !!!!!
The thing that struck me, was how MUCH storage they have, that's important to me. The layout is almost like I did it, I would seriously consider purchasing one for my next rig...

I've been in Derek's boat a few times and I would without a doubt seriously consider buying one over a Triton which I have now.

I don't think of Phoenix as a minor boat company - They are a custom builder, building a limited amount of high quality boats - I would say their resale value is as good or better than most.

Better take him up on that offer, I was sold after I rode in his. I've got the exact same boat as him now.

I personally didn't like the interior layout on the one I looked at when we were staying at motel on Lake Fork.

Dating myself but I want a blacked out 721, gold letters, and that phoenix across the deck. I want a boat that looks like The Bandit Trans Am.

Great looking boats and the standard features seem better than the big names.

Not sure about the wavy lines on the side. Makes it look like Stratos.

Dating yourself or not that would be flippin awesome looking! Would be one hot az boat in summertime though

I agree but the top of the line Stratos boats are pretty nice rigs. They seem to be a nice boat, along with about 10 other brands.

Shipp's Marine in Gladewater, TX
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