So I txt Mr biologist a pic of the stringer meand a buddy haul outta an Arlington creek... He replies... I woulda weighed that one down there near the bottom, the lake record is only 15"! DOOH!

hey Hunting and Fishing...I can attest to his fish catching ability given first hand experience...he is a double pole guy, that loves his slab bandits, and Ketchn is a good name for him...He can catch fish...and he is a hoot to fish with! Photo ops galore...Every fishing trip with him is an ADVENTURE....tons of fun.

I am sure it is and I am sure he can. He also says he don't spider rig! More than one pole is just another spider riggn adventure.

I do my part and keep bumping the post up. Hell I might even fish with him! Ha!

So what did he say? Should we wait till next week?

Hopefully we can get back to a positive and informative Fishing Forum about crappie fishing.

Maybe his trash fish stories should go to the general discussion section.

904!

Crapicat,

Ketchn's been my friend for quite a while. Helped me learn to call turkey and made me a successful whitetail hunter. I've only fished Texas but that's saying a lot compared to most states. From the Red River to the Rio Grande and from San Angelo to Tyler; I've met very few fishermen who have as much enthusiasm, skill and experience as my friend Ketchn. There were those with greater skill but lacked the enthusiasm and those with more enthusiasm but lacking skill. There are better fishermen and better hunters out there for certain. Eccentric? Absolutely. But he's the best friend I've known and one heck of a good guy.

I kinda figured that one out on my own, buddy...but sometimes our fellow forum members only get a chance to read him via online comments...so good post comment...Oh yea, you forgot to mention that he knows who his friends are and that he has their back...should they ever need help....Later

Just by readin yalls post for the last four or five weeks; and I'm talkin to u, crapicat, ketchn and u other G.O.M, whomever y'all maybe, she says keep it up!!! We absolutely crack up when we read y'lls post'. Ray Wylie is tellin me..."SCREW U, WE'RE FROM TEXAS; SO SCREW U!!!

Yea, Flat head red...I love that song...being a 3rd generation Texan, if you got a pair, you can't help but identify with it...oh, and don't worry this "we" will keep forum fun going...

I just love this forum...lots of good folks that know how to fish, lots of information sharing among the members, a willingness to help new members gain a foothold on crappie fishing, great vendors, combined with lots of Ketchn type stories...It don't get no better...Hey, we even now know that your Red Headed girl has a great sense of humor and a great understanding of man!

Thanks for the shout out!

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ah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She is workin overnights now at ur local ez-mart, and is gonna absolutely "adjust" that last comment u made crapicat, I'm sure of it! Lol!

U just can't stop any woman from doin that! But she is from cali and likes to fish, so we're gonna call it even.

She just txtd me nd said she wants to go fishin with y'all. Thanx a lot guys...yall have a new T.F.F. member! Lol!

first of all, there are some clear water lakes in texas. ask the biologist to go look at stillhouse hollow lake. second, white crappie spawn deeper than black crappie. third, how can we know how deep uv rays actually penetrate stained or clearer waters? just because we cant see 3 feet in water, doesnt mean fish cant.
As I have said before, it is a impossibility, that more crappie spawn shallower than deeper because 1. theres only so many running feet of bankline, 2. theres only so many running feet of suitable bankline, 3. if the water is clear in the shallows, they wont spawn there. who here can say they sight fish for crappie on beds on central texas lakes??? bass maybe. but Ive never seen a crappie on a bed. I have personally witness white crappie spawning in 12 feet of water, over 15 feet. They never went shallow because the water was just too clear. common sense will tell you, if all 50,000 mature crappie in a lake went shallow to spawn, the species would be decimated. in my opinion, crappie will spawn as shallow as possible but as deep as neccesary.

Leanin, after I read ur p ost I had a revelation! That is something ive never thought of but I always figured they did shifts like salmon.

well well ....viral again ....
oh my ......piscatur sez i stir the pot alot .....
hmmmmmm
anyway on with the "facts" ......
yes leanin post i was going there ....
you mite have noticed i put the word "local" in front of lakes
he mentioned personally watching "bass" ....
at lake Amistad where the water is clear enough to see the botttom a long way down ....
sitting on beds in 15 feet of water !
and he never mentioned anything about UV or the color spectrum
, just the actual light penetration ....
and maybe i should quickly remind everyone ....
these things we discussed were going to upset some of the folks here ....
i think i put that lil warning in the first post rite ?

in essence he was telling me it was possible for them to be very deep if the lake allowed sunlight that far down ....
just not around dfw ....i think he is actually a "local" state fish biologist ....regional type thing if i remember correct
he told me the reason they "most likely " cant spawn past light penetration is strickly because of the water temp and its inability to retain a steady water temp .....
i personally think predation pushes them as deep as they can go to still make babies and not get ate doin it just like you leanin post
.....
the "spear gunned" male we found dead a couple a weeks ago is a prime example