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Re: What's wrong with tournaments now days
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#8724244
03/19/13 05:42 PM
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Jimfishes
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Re: What's wrong with tournaments now days
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#8724272
03/19/13 05:49 PM
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fishmagnet
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Tawakoni looks like it's gonna receive a good beating on 4/6!
DJT
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Re: What's wrong with tournaments now days
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#8724412
03/19/13 06:21 PM
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Chris Davis - USAFishingTrails
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I think the other side of the argument is being left out. Competition drives innovation, and gives people choices. If there was only one trail, they could charge as much as they wanted, fish only the lakes they wanted, not take care of the fish, pay back whatever they wanted, and everyone would complain about that. If people fish the circuits that are giving them what they want, then the trails that don't do that will go away.
In terms of being lucrative- multiply 20% of the entry fee (or whatever percentage the trail keeps) by the number of teams at each event, then subtract labor, gas, insurance, website expenses, advertising, etc, and there is a lot less than I believe most people think. A lot of hard work and TIME goes into running a tournament trail (or at least ours). Personally, I'm making about $3 an hour. I would not call that lucrative, but then again, I'm doing this because of a passion for fishing. I'm sure some trails are making a killing, though.
Just my 2 cents, and a different perspective.
Chris
Chris Davis | 214-616-5693 chris.davis@usabasstrails.com
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Re: What's wrong with tournaments now days
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#8724436
03/19/13 06:26 PM
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921ELITE Cranker
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All the trails are watering each other down. The days of tournaments with fields over 50 are over unless you fish the dink derbies at Fork.
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Re: What's wrong with tournaments now days
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#8724472
03/19/13 06:34 PM
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Brandon Dillard
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Re: What's wrong with tournaments now days
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#8724474
03/19/13 06:35 PM
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MikeSouza
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Well your list just got shorter! The Media trail on Texoma has been cancelled.
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Re: What's wrong with tournaments now days
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#8724727
03/19/13 07:29 PM
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BMCD
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All I know is there are a lot of people who fish. If everyone fished on the same weekend all Texas lakes would be crowded.
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Re: What's wrong with tournaments now days
[Re: Joefishin]
#8724817
03/19/13 07:44 PM
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Bill Waldschmidt
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The little stuff will always be around. What is hurting is there isn't any 'BIG' stuff anymore. It's all small and medium. No one can draw 100+ boats because it's split up between so many. 20-25 boats in most. A good turnout these days is 50 boats. Used to be 100+ boats in good fields.
TTZ does
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Re: What's wrong with tournaments now days
[Re: Brandon Dillard]
#8724897
03/19/13 08:04 PM
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STEVE B
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team BY -GOD.
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Re: What's wrong with tournaments now days
[Re: 921ELITE Cranker]
#8724976
03/19/13 08:25 PM
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Sinkey
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All the trails are watering each other down. The days of tournaments with fields over 50 are over unless you fish the dink derbies at Fork. This is true! Except for the dink derby comment. Fork Hater! 
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Re: What's wrong with tournaments now days
[Re: fouzman]
#8724977
03/19/13 08:25 PM
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bassdreamer
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He was trying to prove a point. That there are too many trails, hence lower turnouts and payouts. Thank you! My psychic powers weren't working! For me, I don't fish tournaments to 'make' money. I have a better chance playing the lotto. I do it for the fun of competition so having low entry fees and corresponding winnings is ok with me. The only down side is there seems to be a tournament on every lake, every weekend so it DOES get crowded.
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Re: What's wrong with tournaments now days
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#8724989
03/19/13 08:28 PM
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Bass_Bustin_Texan
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I'll be on LOP. Thanks for the reminder! 
You can avoid having ulcers by adapting to the situation: If you fall in the mud puddle, check your pockets for fish. ~Unknown
Open your eyes & look within, are you satisfied with the life youre living.
No matter how good or bad you have it, wake up each day thankful for your life. Someone somewhere else is desperately fighting for theirs.
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Re: What's wrong with tournaments now days
[Re: 921ELITE Cranker]
#8724995
03/19/13 08:30 PM
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The Searchers
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All the trails are watering each other down. The days of tournaments with fields over 50 are over unless you fish the dink derbies at Fork. This was no dink derby. March 16 - Lake Fork - Photos Place Angler 1 Angler 2 # Bass Pounds Winnings Points 1 Archie Hayley Alan Swarts 3 15.69 $2,628.00 165.69 2 Michael Sandifer Shane Steen 4 15.35 $1,428.00 164.35 3 John (Pete) Wilson Eric Wright 5 11.23 $850.00 159.23 4 Travis Copeland Jr Travis Copeland Sr 5 10.26 $750.00 157.26 5 Zach Hughes Mike Hughes 5 9.44 $650.00 155.44 6 Richard Osborn Tom Cornelius 5 9.40 $550.00 154.40 7 David Ozio Richard Altman 5 9.37 $450.00 153.37 8 Rob Feagin Bill Sweeten 5 9.36 $400.00 152.36
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Re: What's wrong with tournaments now days
[Re: Bass_Bustin_Texan]
#8725015
03/19/13 08:32 PM
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Chris B
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Every year there is some cool new tourney outfit starting up with 15 divisions watering down the field. Probably be more starting up next year. Before long a 20 boat tourney will be a large turnout.
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Re: What's wrong with tournaments now days
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#8725023
03/19/13 08:34 PM
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BrettD
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I guess Im fishing April 6th!
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