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Re: Biggest mistakes beginning Crappie fishermen make. [Re: ERNEST PATY] #8591097 02/14/13 08:53 PM
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Guy, does 10 lb line do ok shooting docks? Wondered if the heavier line made it harder to get way back deep in shadows or if there's not much difference.




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Re: Biggest mistakes beginning Crappie fishermen make. [Re: The Crappie Guy] #8591144 02/14/13 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: Guy Skinner
The only thing that i think needs to be added to the list is...the right equipment. For the life of me, I will never understand why a person that is just getting into crappie fishing will go out and buy the shortest, lightest, most "buggy whip" rod that they can find. I watched a guy fishing last weekend with one of the aforementioned rods, and also watched him loose three really good crappie, back to back to back, because his rod wasn't strong enough to keep the bigger fish out of the brush. Another 'list' favorite is the bad habit of buying very light line, thinking that you have to have 4# test to catch crappie. For years now I have used nothing but 10# braid with a 12# leader, and somehow I still manage to catch about all the crappie I want to catch.

Just my .02 cents..........
Just goes to show you that you can catch crappie on most any equipment. Even 12# line and long stiff rods. Picking the "right" equipment is like picking your wife; sometimes the logic is difficult for others to see.

Re: Biggest mistakes beginning Crappie fishermen make. [Re: ERNEST PATY] #8591211 02/14/13 09:30 PM
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Good info,that I will practice on,if I can locate the crappie.
One thing I don't understand and I'm sure there is a good explantion for it is why some put a leader on of a different diameter and type.

Re: Biggest mistakes beginning Crappie fishermen make. [Re: bowfin] #8591380 02/14/13 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: bowfin
Good info,that I will practice on,if I can locate the crappie.
One thing I don't understand and I'm sure there is a good explantion for it is why some put a leader on of a different diameter and type.


Probably used to doing it on saltwater crappie around 4 ft lights bolt


Re: Biggest mistakes beginning Crappie fishermen make. [Re: ERNEST PATY] #8592620 02/15/13 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted By: ERNEST PATY
#1 Thinking that a jig needs action to catch fish. Jig is the name of the lure, not the way you fish it. Stop the fast up and down "Jigging". Holding it still will produce more strikes by far. If that doesn't work try slowly (very slowly) raising or pulling up the jig a few feet.

#2 Forget fishing from the bottom up. Fish from the top down. I start fishing most of the year 12' deep, regardless of the water depth. My line is marked at 12', 17' and 22'before I leave home. (Obviously this won't work in spring when fishing shallow.)

#3 There's nothing wrong with minnow fishing. If you want to learn to jig fish, leave the minnows at home while you are learning. Otherwise you will not try hard enough to ever learn.
Personally I am convinced that jigs will out catch minnows most of the time. So why bother.

#4 Fish slower faster. While fishing a spot, fish slow but don't stay long if you don't get bit or they stop biting. Usually 5 min. is long enough.

#5 (Maybe should be #1) Don't take everthing (I and other so called experts tell you) literally as gospel truth. We're still learning too and all the rules and methods don't work some of the time.


nice great info. right to the point. thank you


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Re: Biggest mistakes beginning Crappie fishermen make. [Re: ERNEST PATY] #8593383 02/15/13 11:27 AM
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I have to agree with Guy on the line. He converted me to 10# braid this past year and I love it. No memory! None!
Just received two new PA dock shooters and planning to load one with braid and the other with mono hi vis...a necessity for docks in my opinion. Haven't trid shooting docks with the braid yet so can't comment on the above question.

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Re: Biggest mistakes beginning Crappie fishermen make. [Re: OkieBob] #8593437 02/15/13 12:15 PM
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Regarding the various comments to my post on here:
Line is a perference, and when you get good enough to know the difference in lines, you can then decide what fits your style of fishing. My comments was directed toward the newbies. I see no sense in buying 4# line and a light rod and expecting that you will be able to master brush pile fishing in a couple of trips. Because all you will master is the art of breaking off a bunch of jigs. Makes the guys that sell jigs happy but just ticks the newbies off. When you're experienced enough to be able to catch crappie out of a mud puddle...none of what I said applies. Now let me think for a minute.....how many of the top tournament crappie anglers use light rods and light line??? Oh, that's right...none.


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Guy for once you are deadddddddd on.Braid sure has made fishin more fun.Darrell


Re: Biggest mistakes beginning Crappie fishermen make. [Re: ERNEST PATY] #8593624 02/15/13 01:43 PM
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Do you think the fishermen using Dacron line had similar feelings about monofilament in the 1940's? Now they are making braided lines out of plastic and getting darn good about giving it the same properties of mono while retaining high strength and small diameters.

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Re: Biggest mistakes beginning Crappie fishermen make. [Re: ERNEST PATY] #8593664 02/15/13 01:56 PM
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i never liked braid till i saw some posts Ernest put up about usin it ......
i have learned to really really like it .....
seems to translate everyting goin on down there right to my hand like a telegraph ....probably due to the lack of line stretch
and then there is the being able to mark depths on it
the fact i cant seem to break it .....
and no memory .....
many thanks to Ernest for the tip .....

Re: Biggest mistakes beginning Crappie fishermen make. [Re: The Crappie Guy] #8593784 02/15/13 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: Guy Skinner
The only thing that i think needs to be added to the list is...the right equipment. For the life of me, I will never understand why a person that is just getting into crappie fishing will go out and buy the shortest, lightest, most "buggy whip" rod that they can find. I watched a guy fishing last weekend with one of the aforementioned rods, and also watched him loose three really good crappie, back to back to back, because his rod wasn't strong enough to keep the bigger fish out of the brush. Another 'list' favorite is the bad habit of buying very light line, thinking that you have to have 4# test to catch crappie. For years now I have used nothing but 10# braid with a 12# leader, and somehow I still manage to catch about all the crappie I want to catch.

Just my .02 cents..........


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Good post. Like Ernest said, always learning.

Personally, I like the top down approach. Crappie see upward and strike upward. Bigger fish are typically higher in the water column.

I learned to use jigs when I finally left without buying minnows.

I still prefer mono. 6 lb on my little kid poles and 10 lb on my 8 and 10 ft rods. I tried braid last spring and didn't like it. I may try it again on a day I am catching a lot. The max depth I have ever fished for crappie was 39 ft deep in dead of winter. Most of tome 10-15 ft down. On 10lb mono there's not that much line stretch at that depth to me, but do what works for you.

I no longer use shakespear bait casters for my 8 ft jig poles. The side of that reel opens up. No big deal. A lot of brands do. For God knows what reason, sometimes on. Hook set, my other hand would hit the side of that reel and knock the cover off sending the spool flying out across the boat. I did this 5 times and lost the fish. I know this is my issue and example of do what works for you.

I think my biggest hurdle as a beginner was real estate - location, location,location. Over 10 years I now have 200 waypoints on my home lake and know what time of year to go to which ones, but I still learn and not always 100% right so I continue to learn. I love it. When I fish, I am not stressed about work, home, or anything. I'm thankful to have a passion for something that gets me away from it all.


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Thanks I am soaking all of this up


Re: Biggest mistakes beginning Crappie fishermen make. [Re: ERNEST PATY] #8595941 02/15/13 10:36 PM
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So Guy, what do you think of braid for dock shooting...curious minds inquire!


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Say, okiebob...word has it that your boat buddy could provide that info!!!!

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