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Re: Super lake to NOT
[Re: Bassen]
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01/18/13 05:22 AM
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Jarrett Latta
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i bet it will fish better with water temps in the mid 60's and 70's
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Re: Super lake to NOT
[Re: Bassen]
#8469746
01/18/13 05:32 AM
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Dfitz
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Internet... Social media... and what Fouz said.
Don't worry about the mule, just load the cart
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Re: Super lake to NOT
[Re: Bassen]
#8470240
01/18/13 02:28 PM
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Easy Fisherman
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Presure from tournaments and fish kill from them - if you go to a private stocked lake you will NEVER have a month of bad fishing - you will on tournament lakes and if you use TPWL stats you will note the demise in size- private lake don't have demise in size but just the reverse- As Todd Driscoll from TPWL Bio wrote 1/4 to 1/3 of all tournament weighted fish die within 3 days - how long doed it take for a bass to get to 5 lbs - TPWl stats don't lie neither do private lakes that have no tournaments but some folks will for self gratification and to gamble- guess who pays for it , not them they reap but don't plant
Last edited by Easy Fisherman; 01/18/13 07:14 PM.
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Re: Super lake to NOT
[Re: Bassen]
#8478029
01/20/13 03:21 PM
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AWS
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Easy... I go with the science and the data as you state. I am 70 and am not refering to 3 or 4 years experience on these Texas waters. I have fished hard here since 1974 and seen the fishing pressure excalate and the "catching" go up and down. The fishing has always been good. If we want the "catching" to be good, we need to pay attention to the science.....
AWS Temple Bass Club 1974 ZX225 "the road goes on forever and the party never ends"
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Re: Super lake to NOT
[Re: Jersey Dan]
#8478240
01/20/13 04:11 PM
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Big Red 12
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I think it is probably caused by enviormental factors. (Something happens in the food chain, diseases, etc.) Fayette Lake is a great small lake and is heavily fished, so fishing pressure does not hurt it. An abundance of meat hunters could hurt the bass population, but most meat hunters target other species of fish and pick up an occassional bass. At Falcon, folks will keep 5 over 21" every day, at least they used to. Same thing happened to Amistad. WHY... I just don't get it I guess.. Billy - Here is a fresh 11+ that was offered for sale for probably $5 bucks. I declined and the fish was thrown on the bottom of the metal floor for fish stew later on in the evening. Bass have no value down there... If it was still alive, I would have bought it and turned it loose.
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Re: Super lake to NOT
[Re: AgSellers04]
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01/20/13 04:54 PM
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Fishbreeder
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AgSellers04 has a good handle on the situation. I can add this from 30 years of experience and breeding bass for fishing.
Genetics plays a strong roll in the declaine of a bass fishery. Start by introducing Florida genes. Good, thjat makes for bigger bass...but...Florida bass are more difficult to catch by hook and line than are Northern types. Then waht do we (fishermen) do to make things worse?
We catch and many remove and eat the fish. Its not the harvest or the decline in the population sometimes that makes fishing more difficult, it is the changing genetic composition of the fish in the lake in response to intense fishing pressure.
TP&WD research at Heart of the Hills research station shows that "catchability" is an inherited trait. They showed they could selectively breed for "less easily caught" bass.
I've shown since that the reverse is also true, you can indeed breed a "more catchable" bass.
Look at the situation in public lakes. Lots of folks fishing, many catch and keep, fine with me if its legal. But...the "easily caught" bass are wuickly removed from the population, leaving only those difficult to catch to reproduce. After several generations of this negative selection pressure you can find a fishery with plenty of fish, but hard to catch.
In my lakes that I have for a fishing club, and those I manage, I have worked to breed and stock with bass that have been "bred to be caught." No point in a lake full of 16 pounders you cannot catch.
Fishbreeder
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Re: Super lake to NOT
[Re: Bassen]
#8478369
01/20/13 04:57 PM
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ZeroHour
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Dunlap isnt an "easy" fishery and will weed out the meat hunters especially this time of year.
Chris Dombkowski San Antonio TX Team Daiwa RMR Industries (Makers of BTS and KVD Line and Lure) Rudy Project Eyewear
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Re: Super lake to NOT
[Re: Bassen]
#8478649
01/20/13 06:13 PM
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catslayer
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Ok What about Lake Ivie. It was smoken hot and now you fish for one bite!
Throw 15 feet of water on ANY lake that fast and it jacks up Water chemistry. The fish got used to being in one place now they are another. Look at what happened to stad when it filled up a few years back. It got TOUGH compared to what it was. Also Ivie has been tough in winter since I moved out there. Its gonna be a sick spawn out there this year though with the new water
Last edited by catslayer; 01/20/13 06:20 PM.
"I'll never mess with bee's or wasp anymore, and I'll never gig another beaver..." Words from a man who learned things the hard way
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Re: Super lake to NOT
[Re: 10 lbs or bust]
#8478676
01/20/13 06:30 PM
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banker-always fishing
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That was certainly worth reading Ag.......you brought your A game for that one. Plus #1. 
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Re: Super lake to NOT
[Re: Bassen]
#8478978
01/20/13 08:27 PM
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Fishspanker
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Tons of the superb structure is out of the water. To me that's the main thing that the is making the fishing totally different. The other thing everyone talks about have some effect . No way you can hurt the fishing that bad when most to the anglers are catching and releasing.
The Sheep who only fears the Wolf is eaten by the Shepherd.
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