Ah Mike... Thanks for replying but easy to dismiss lakes you don't have. It's fine. Fact is we still have more lakes, more recent data, more detail, and always adding more and new data. Lakemaster can't do that. And also Lakemaster doesn't how trees. You stated one tree. Changing your story. It's okay, Others that know will keep using Navionics.

Doug, playing dirty when I'm not supposed to be here? For shame. But I appreciate the screen shots showing where we have more data. No matter how many times you post your lakes list, you still don't have near as many or as many in HD as Navionics. Appreciate the help on those shots showing how much better we have data. Your maps do look kind of cartoony. Additionally I like how you posted what "your" offer was. You won't agree to mine because if you do sonar to prove it we win and as far as recency ad changes lakemaster can't do it either.

Lastly, if lakemaster is SO good how come you have their logo on your website but still teach Navionics? Because ours is the best. Okay see ya.
http://www.dougvahrenberg.com/Training.html

Anyone that reads this, for the true comparison please read back a few pages. I keep posting why we are better, Doug keeps dismissing. No n�ed to repeat again. Please read comparison and see te facts. Have a good day

Want sonar proof? Here is some shots from LakeMaster with Humminbird Side Imaging side-by-side. Cool thing is this lake is down between 3 and 4 foot so I set the Lake Level Offset to match the sonar readings at the beginning of the day and took some time between catching fish to capture a few images for "Proof of Performance"

Here's one as I approached a Pond Dam across a creek... Says 22' on Map at the point of the GPS Reading (not the Point of the Boat Icon it's in the middle of the Icon where the track line ends)sonar was reading 21.8'...2 Tenths of a foot off in contour.



Here's shot showing Exactly what is on the Chart. And Depth per LakeMaster chart is suppose to be 20' at that contour line and the sonar reading is 20.2' it's a little past the line the so it's pretty dang close in my opinion.



Here's another where LakeMaster Chart shows a Road on the Left Side of the Boat and Humminbird Side Imaging Confirms the finding and look at the Depth Reading... GPS Location is between the 17 and 18 Countor Lines.



Just Curious how is it playing dirty using the Most Current Data from Both and the Exact Same Electronics and Exact Same Zoom Range for Comparison Purposes???

Thanks for Viewing My Website! Glad you check out my non-current training program for sonar...as I explained in the first sentence. I had to cease that program when I found out needed Captains License to teach sonar training on the water a couple years ago. I'll let my Webmaster know he needs to change that information. But thanks for sharing.

Love to see Proof matching contours with sonar for all brands of Mapping...Navionics, InSight, Hot Spot and more. For anyone that has images please share them here.

Wow.... You guys are all being ridiculous. My dad can beat up your dad and I'm taking my ball and going home.

Il throw out a few areas that are likly people will fish that I would like to see. I relize I threw out a lot and not everyone has all day to sit in front of there unit and take screenshots to load to a forum. Just wanted to pick a couple different areas from different lakes. No need to post all of them.

Belton
31� 12.165'N 97� 29.064'W
31� 12.637'N 97� 30.870'W
31� 10.663'N 97� 28.445'W

Waco
31� 33.606'N 97� 14.534'W
31� 35.649'N 97� 16.370'W

Granger
30� 42.514'N 97� 22.295'W
30� 42.908'N 97� 20.751'W

I'll get you LakeMaster examples this evening. Do you have a preference on zoom level range you want? Close Up of Structure or Zoomed out for more coverage. Or I can get both? What ever you want.

Most of these areas are somewhat small coves or points so zoomed in for more detailed structure would be more what im looking for.

Thanks

Doug, What do you do when a lake is more than 30 foot low?

I know of Travis, Amistad, and Falcon are greater than 30 foot?

Use lake offset to 30 Foot then use shallow water highlight to adjust to current conditions but I hear that may be resolved real soon so Water Level Offset allows for more depth Offset with Drought Conditions in the South and West. It's been passed on but not sure when it will come in a Humminbird Software Update.

Belton (LakeMaster HD Map)
31� 12.165'N 97� 29.064'W





31� 12.637'N 97� 30.870'W





31� 10.663'N 97� 28.445'W






Waco (LakeMaster Non-HD Map)
31� 33.606'N 97� 14.534'W





31� 35.649'N 97� 16.370'W

Granger (LakeMaster Non-HD Map)
30� 42.514'N 97� 22.295'W



30� 42.908'N 97� 20.751'W



This is the current data from LakeMaster 2012 Chart for Texas Oklahoma. IF you'd like more example I'll be happy to share.

Thanks for your help Doug.

If you need more I will get any screen captures you may want. Or if you have feature questions here to answer those too. Glad I could be of help.

Here's another proof image from the Trolling Motor of LakeMaster Accuracy... The Map in North Reference so the left side of the Side Imaging is shooting towards the bank and the right side is shooting over the creek channel. I normally run my trolling motor GPS Mapping in North Reference so the map remains in a fixed position and doesn't move...easier for me to maintain my position to the waypoints or structure when fishing than Course Up or Head Up but when heading south with north reference you have to remember that left is right and right is left because the map is always referenced from a north direction. But it's what works for me.

Here's a shot showing depth and contour depth...looks pretty close to me???



Snapped a Picture with the Phone of the Ditch for Proof too,

Angling Technologies to do your research and trip planning online before you get on the water. It's cost effective and let's you control the type of information you want to work with to include multiple types of imagery blended with different types of depth data.

EXACTLY! I just bought Navionics premium for a new Elite 5, and honestly, the attitude of one individual on this thread makes me regret it.
FWIW, Lakemaster has 100% better representation on this thread. I don't know anyone involved, but I know who I'd rather deal with.
Also, I hope that Navionic's upgrades will make the images as easy to read as the Lakemaster. It doesn't really matter how much more info is there if it's not user friendly.
I honestly believe I will be happy and satisfied with my choice (I have to be now), and I will make the best of it for my needs, but the attitudes on here say alot about the companies represented.
Doug, I don't know you, but thanks for the info and the side by side comparisons.