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Re: GPS Mapping Comparisons: LakeMaster, Navionics, Insight etc [Re: Doug Vahrenberg] #8019178 09/20/12 11:48 PM
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Now we're cooking. Unreal amounts of information right there. I am leaning more and more towards buying an additional finder and run one of the chips on that at the console.

Thank you both.

Re: GPS Mapping Comparisons: LakeMaster, Navionics, Insight etc [Re: Doug Vahrenberg] #8019624 09/21/12 01:36 AM
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Here's Comparison of that last Image from LakeMaster



We got a couple Foundations Listed too. From the Info Buttons LakeMaster Includes on their maps.





Here's Your Exact Same Image from the Freshest Data just using the exact same Graph for Comparison. That ways it's apple-to-apples. Just as I was doing all along.



Now isn't that easier for the Consumer to compare? What's so wrong with that.

If it's ok with you I personally think the same size image instead of those small images you posted would be much easier on the eyes to see we are compare the same exact spots on both brands. If not get some of your Texas Prostaffers that post on here to share their images on here so it's easier to see side-by-side then Page 6 versus page 8 or the next page even. Shot-to-Shot should be a much fairer comparison just like I was doing.

Heck you can email me the waypoints you want to post and range and I'll let you review the pictures before I post. That's all we want to do is apple-to-apples comparison.


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Re: GPS Mapping Comparisons: LakeMaster, Navionics, Insight etc [Re: Doug Vahrenberg] #8019715 09/21/12 01:52 AM
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Your Lake Buchanan Image...Humminbird has 0.25 Mile Scale not 0.2 Range like your Lowrance so I recaptured the image using Your "Freshest Data" and LakeMaster Version 2 Data they released in 2012. So we can compare apples-to-apples. These are both from 1198c with all data layers on and on LakeMaster Zero Lake Level Offset.

Navionics - like you posted



LakeMaster





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Re: GPS Mapping Comparisons: LakeMaster, Navionics, Insight etc [Re: Doug Vahrenberg] #8019789 09/21/12 02:04 AM
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Same thing on Your Lake Livingston Image...Humminbird has 0.25 Mile Scale not 0.2 Range like your Lowrance so I recaptured the image using Your "Freshest Data" and LakeMaster Version 2 Data they released in 2012. So we can compare apples-to-apples. These are both from 1198c with all data layers on and on LakeMaster Zero Lake Level Offset.

Navionics - like you posted



LakeMaster



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Now what I would really like is for you to give me some Bass Fishing Areas....Us bass fishermen normally are not in the middle of the lake on the old river channel. 99% of the Bass are Caught less than 20' of Water Anywhere in the world and I bet of that 99% - 90% of those are caught less that 10' Deep. Can we compare apples-to-apples of that same data??? Lets get on the Flats and in the Creeks where Bass Fisherman love to fish because that is where the bass live.




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Re: GPS Mapping Comparisons: LakeMaster, Navionics, Insight etc [Re: Doug Vahrenberg] #8019895 09/21/12 02:19 AM
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Almost forget to comparisons for the Lake Fork. This is a great example why using the same brand of electronics is best to compare so we are on the same range line...hate for one brand to mislead they look better because of the Zoom Range. Since Humminbird does not have 0.2 Mile Range goes from 0.25 to 1000 Foot. I took Examples of Both for the Images you posted. Still would love to get shallow in them bass waters.


Navionics 0.25 Mile Range



LakeMaster 0.25 Mile Range



Navionics at 1000 Foot Range



LakeMaster at 1000 Foot Range



Apples-to-Apples just like I've been trying to share. Just give me some more places or since your busy get your prostaff to join in and share. Images or Locations they suggest to compare and we can take turns so the consumer can see what their hard earned dollars are going for.




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Re: GPS Mapping Comparisons: LakeMaster, Navionics, Insight etc [Re: Doug Vahrenberg] #8021976 09/21/12 04:04 PM
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Since we’ve opened up to talk about Features of the Products.

LakeMaster Features:

Water Level Offest:
Allows you to adjust the Map Contours to match the current Lake Level. Easiest way is to zoom into a contour line and match to your current sonar readings...this will get you real close.



Shallow Water Highlight (Red)
Shallow Water Highlight allows you color from the bank to the selected depth a Red Color to help you select a hazard depth range or to select an upper range like when hump hunting.





Depth Highlight (Green):
Depth Highlight Allows you to Highlight a Depth. Like the Depth Range you are looking for fish in or structure at that Depth. It will Highlight this Depth with a Green Line. Using with Depth Highlight Range will color that depth Above and Below that Range.



Depth Color:
Allows you to change the map colors for depth of the water. Darker Colors are deeper water or you can can turn them off.






Lake List:
You can search available Lakes by Name or HD Maps. Allows you to quickly go to that lake to look at the contour line data.



Turn Contour Lines OFF/ON:
You have the ability to view the Maps with Contour Lines on or off. Turning them off allows you to see the INFO Buttons, Roads, Channels and added data easier.



Mapping Coverage
[b]Offshore Coverage{b] of Coastal Water is included on States that border Gulf of Mexico or Oceans. For Texas that there is 23 Million Acres of Coastal Waters to the depth of 328 Feet.

* Navigational Aids such as Buoys, Lights, Hazards & Channels
* Artificial Reef Locations
* Wreck Locations
* Detailed Harbor Information



Samples:
http://www.lakemap.com/images/inshoregulf2.jpg




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Re: GPS Mapping Comparisons: LakeMaster, Navionics, Insight etc [Re: Doug Vahrenberg] #8021977 09/21/12 04:04 PM
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[b]Inland Lake Coverage





Mapping Highlight Features
Road Beds, Creek Channels, Points of Interest Markers and Labels.

Examples: http://www.lakemap.com/images/humtxokscreenshots.jpg

Football Shaped Icon is Point of Interest:



Move Cursor on Top and Hit INFO to get detailed Point of Interest Informaion:



Visit www.lakemap.com to Learn More about LakeMaster and Contour Elite Computer Trip Planning and Pattern/Structure Matching Software available from LakeMaster.

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Re: GPS Mapping Comparisons: LakeMaster, Navionics, Insight etc [Re: Doug Vahrenberg] #8023313 09/21/12 08:45 PM
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Wow. Honesty from both sides. I've never seen such bickering on a forum before unless it was about fish stories.
It is nice to see both sides' features, but it looks like Navionics does have a lot more detailed charts. Other than the 'water level offset', why would you buy Lakemaster as a stand alone product? I'll stay put with my HDS and Hotmaps.

Re: GPS Mapping Comparisons: LakeMaster, Navionics, Insight etc [Re: Doug Vahrenberg] #8024419 09/22/12 02:26 AM
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why would you buy Lakemaster as a stand alone product?

Good question since they wont work with Lowrance

Re: GPS Mapping Comparisons: LakeMaster, Navionics, Insight etc [Re: Pmnav12] #8026032 09/22/12 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: Pmnav12

oh Triton Mike... how about Carters? Sinclair? Oconee? Clarks Hill? oh i see only picked the 3 lakes you have. pretty funny. oh and thats why one of your guys was on facebook talking about how they needed to resound Lanier and had a boat to correct it because the mapping was wrong. oh wait, maybe it found a second "tree". really? a tree? anyone knowing charting will find that hilarious. One tree on a chart... please. That would be a good sonar that would find that which Humminbird has but it wouldnt be on a chart as ONE tree.


Mr Navionics Sales Manager, Since you called me out I'll respond. I got Lakemaster for the lakes I FISH. Carters is another lake that I guide on in additon to Allatoona. I do fish Lanier somewhat but mostly ALlatoona and Carters.. and I will put it up against Navionics whenever your ready.. I don't fish Sinclair, Oconee so I have no knowledge of the quality of mappings for either company nor do I care and I alluded to that in my first post saying neither company is all things to everyone with their mapping needs but for my needs on those lakes listed YOU LOSE maybe that would be different on other lakes.. I guess I don't know what you mean about TREE on Lanier? There is no standing timber above the water on Lanier?

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Originally Posted By: Allan W
why would you buy Lakemaster as a stand alone product?

Good question since they wont work with Lowrance


Same can be said about Lowrance Insight..

Re: GPS Mapping Comparisons: LakeMaster, Navionics, Insight etc [Re: Doug Vahrenberg] #8026276 09/22/12 11:03 PM
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First of all i think this is great information to be included here for the fisherman. I have to say though that this does not appear to be an apples to apples comparison. The reason is that the lake master product only runs on a bird and the navionics runs on both bird and lowrance. i have a lowrance unit as many fisherman out there do and would not change units just to get a different mapping product. the lakemaster looks like a good product but it is too bad that they have decided to go to the dance with only one manufacture.

randy

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Originally Posted By: brewski
First of all i think this is great information to be included here for the fisherman. I have to say though that this does not appear to be an apples to apples comparison. The reason is that the lake master product only runs on a bird and the navionics runs on both bird and lowrance. i have a lowrance unit as many fisherman out there do and would not change units just to get a different mapping product. the lakemaster looks like a good product but it is too bad that they have decided to go to the dance with only one manufacture.

randy


Since Hotspots and Insite are included in this discussion, the same can be said of their limited usage too.

Looks like Navionics is the only common product.

Then there are those that prefer the maps that Garmin uses and they are exclusive to Garmin.

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Re: GPS Mapping Comparisons: LakeMaster, Navionics, Insight etc [Re: Doug Vahrenberg] #8027336 09/23/12 03:52 AM
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I like my Lakemaster more and more after each use. Being able to turn the contours off is sweet option when running lakes like Fork and Toledo makes it a lot easier too see the boat lanes on your graph plus all your other highlight options just no comparison if you ask me.

Re: GPS Mapping Comparisons: LakeMaster, Navionics, Insight etc [Re: Doug Vahrenberg] #8030616 09/24/12 01:41 AM
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If you have a Lowrance and have Insight or Fishing Hot Spots share those images too. This forum was set up to compare all mapping products. Yes some are limited to one brand or another but GPS Mapping is a feature of modern electronics and may be a deciding factor for some if they prefer a mapping vendor over another and may need to consider the electronics brand to get the mapping product or products that are compatible with that brand. Anyone with Insight and Hotspots please share. I don't have the ability. It's open to any mapping company to show what they have to offer. Compare images already posted or create your own and we will get comparison images from the other brands. Lets show the strengths and weaknesses of each brand of mapping product.




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